Reactionary Radical Eliminationists vs. Trans

Are we talking real children, or some whackjob 30 year old who "identifies " as one?

Or maybe real women don't want to see tubesteaks in their locker rooms.

It does when men are presumed guilty by default, which is most of the time.

Your solution is the logical one. It is also soundly rejected because it doesn't force anyone to validate "gender identity."

Ooooh THAT's how you cure 'Rona. Trump forgot the chaser when he suggested it!

I guarantee you every woman alive has seen far more "tubesteaks" from cishet men exposing themselves to her or texting her unsolicited dick pics than she ever will from a transwoman in the locker room.

These are pretty muddy waters to begin with
So is that a yes or a no?

The point I'm making is specific to this thread, that there are people here trying to run around the whole issue by holding the position that every man wants to fuck every woman and will do anything to get the chance, that it's some kind of long con.

These are only muddy waters because you make them muddy, you put people off-balance, and the shift the narrative to put someone on the defensive. Hence your persistence in pushing the false notion that I somehow believe that all women are bigots for not wanting to be around anyone who might remind them of cisgender men. It's intellectually disingenuous, sneaky, and I hope people here can see through it. It's the "I'm just asking questions" approach when no questions are being asked so much as assumptions and judgments being made.

I understand that there will be cisgender women who are uncomfortable around transgender women. That's what ignorance does, and that can be dealt with the more patriarchal institutions are broken down and replaced with more equitable systems.

Trans women aren't out to rape cis women. Contrary to what the GOP think, we're women, we also want to be where we feel safe and comfortable.

Says the guy that uses the sexual slang of 7 year olds.

Well no, these are muddy waters because you’re asking and in some cases telling people to instantly get over thousands of years of societal norms that put a lot of people way outside of their comfort zones, and when they ask questions or make observations you tell them they can’t or that their questions are tied into hatred and bigotry. Hence there’s a lot of confusion, mistrust and conflict going around

Look at what you’re doing here - I literally have no problem with trans folk, I’m not Uncle Albert or fuckin Federal Farmer and you’re coming at me hard like I’m some hard cunt because I’m saying that i believe there are woman out there who are genuinely worried and it’s not rooted in bigotry. And you feel the same way and agree with me on that!! Amazing

"I'm just asking questions."

Seriously, you made whole ass assumptions in your response. You made the claim that I said you have to instantly get outside of your comfort zone. Show me where I said it.

Go on. Show me.

Show me where I said women are bigoted for being worried.

Go on. Show me.

Because what I said was:
"Hence your persistence in pushing the false notion that I somehow believe that all women are bigots for not wanting to be around anyone who might remind them of cisgender men."

And I also said:
"I understand that there will be cisgender women who are uncomfortable around transgender women. That's what ignorance does, and that can be dealt with the more patriarchal institutions are broken down and replaced with more equitable systems."

You muddy the waters because you have assumptions you wish to make without hearing what I'm saying, so that when I clear them up, you jump right back in with the same tired old excuses that have no merit.

You're fine with trans folks.
Yeah, and some of my best friends are black.

I'd think the behavior of its owner is of considerably more consequence than whether it's seen or not, but I'm not a woman. Neither are you.

Is it possible UA is a regretful transexual? I just can't decide if they are cis male or cis female...

Right. Women get to make this determination, and if they don't want dongs in their locker rooms, that's the end of it.

It's not ignorance. You can't accuse everyone who doesn't share your OPINIONS as just failing to understand the situation. They understand it just fine, and they don't want biological men in their dressing rooms.

There's just no self-awareness there.
His Enterprise has no internal sensors.

He's just another Anita Bryant.

Historians are learning more about how the Nazis targeted trans people

Source: https://theconversation.com/histori...ut-how-the-nazis-targeted-trans-people-205622

Wait until you hear what they did to the Jews

Don't "All Lives Matter" this, please.

Nor I, but I'm pretty sure most women know exactly who's the most likely to show them a penis without their consent or try to rape them, and it ain't transwomen.

You're right, wow, even more evidence they were bad people and terrible role models!

Fucked up if true

So the argument is societal norms trump everything else because it makes some people uncomfortable. So tons of lube is trying to tell us we should have never made multiracial anything because it was the societal norm to segregate and it made the white supremacists and nazis uncomfortable.

Great fucking argument showing that tons of lube shares the same thoughts for the comfort of bigots as any right wing republican.

Societal norms are not always correct. Sometimes they are horrible like slavery, prejudice, rape, human sacrifice, child abuse, child rape, and many other things that were once normal and blessed by god and society as good normal things.

If we can tell a whypipo bitch to use the same locker room as a black woman, or that speaking spanish is not a crime to her delicate ears, then seeing a penis in an area she voluntarily entered where nudity occurs is not the end of her world. If it is then she can stay out of public nude areas.

I for one am shocked to learn this

You do more damage to trans folk than i ever could. Now go shit into a diaper

There is an easy solution to this locker room thing. Since it takes going to court and showing evidence you are living as a different gender, and going through the process of changing your gender, tyhen your gender on your government issued ID should be good enough to verify which changing room you belong in.

This means that you have a long term commitment to gender change. Until the point where this happens then you have to remain in the changing room of the gender you were assigned at birth. This could also be applied in school.

There does have to be a verifyable line of commitment. WEith the proper explanations and care for trans people I think any reasonable trans person without other psychological problems can transition and take the time to show their commitment to the process.

The probl;em is that this process has to be there and not be opposed by restrictive gatekeepers on the radical right who seek only to deny transition. If you cannot take seeing a dick on a transitioning person who is goinmg through the process because you have a mental problem with seeing dick then you stay the fuck out of places. Seeing a dick does not kill anyone. If youi have a male child then you will see a dick, and I do not know any mom who has died from seeing her son's dick.

Keep on telling us how we should never change because it would make the nazis and white supremacists sad.

It is becoming a lot more obvious you project onto me your own racist and prejudice feelings. That self loathing thing is so you.

Human Rights Campaign declares national state of emergency for LGBTQ people

Source: https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...national-state-of-emergency-for-lgbtq-people/

It never stops here, and it never stops with just us.