SARS II: Respiratory Boogaloo

Shirogayne · Jun 21, 2021

Chaos Descending said: ↑

Yesterday the United States recorded 83 deaths from COVID19.

83 is too many, but it's also the first time since MARCH 2020 that fewer than 100 deaths were recorded across the entire United States.
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I'm still concerned about the delta variant, but that is promising news!

shootER · Jun 21, 2021

tafkats · Jun 22, 2021

shootER said: ↑

It's simplistic thinking to believe that The Daily Show, Last Week Tonight, etc are staffed by a bunch of comedy writers who "do the media's job for them". In fact, many of the people who work on those shows are actual journalists whose research then gets written to be funny by the writers on staff.
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For several years now, I've been saying that my dream job is to be a staff researcher for Samantha Bee...

Order2Chaos · Jun 22, 2021

Shirogayne said: ↑

Chaos Descending said: ↑

Yesterday the United States recorded 83 deaths from COVID19.

83 is too many, but it's also the first time since MARCH 2020 that fewer than 100 deaths were recorded across the entire United States.
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I'm still concerned about the delta variant, but that is promising news!
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Delta (B.1.617.2 - the second India variant) is fucking terrifying, especially if you're unvaccinated, but also if you've got AstraZenica (and probably J&J), or are less than 2 weeks from second mRNA dose. 45% of all people who died from the delta variant in the UK last week were fully vaccinated with AstraZenica.

Fortunately we know that the mRNA vaccines are doing well (88% effective) against it, but only at full vaccination. It's 33% effective before dose 2, unlike for earlier strains, which are closer to 70%.

Oh, and it's got an R_0 of 5-8.

steve2^4 · Jun 22, 2021

corona told me to tell you they appreciate the large pool of hosts to experiment on.

The Original Faceman · Jun 22, 2021

Ha. Yes told you AZ was snake oil. But you wouldn’t listen!

Sent from my Moderna 5G enabled vaccine

Bickendan · Jun 22, 2021

Order2Chaos said: ↑

Shirogayne said: ↑

Chaos Descending said: ↑

Yesterday the United States recorded 83 deaths from COVID19.

83 is too many, but it's also the first time since MARCH 2020 that fewer than 100 deaths were recorded across the entire United States.
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I'm still concerned about the delta variant, but that is promising news!
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Delta (B.1.617.2 - the second India variant) is fucking terrifying, especially if you're unvaccinated, but also if you've got AstraZenica (and probably J&J), or are less than 2 weeks from second mRNA dose. 45% of all people who died from the delta variant in the UK last week were fully vaccinated with AstraZenica.

Fortunately we know that the mRNA vaccines are doing well (88% effective) against it, but only at full vaccination. It's 33% effective before dose 2, unlike for earlier strains, which are closer to 70%.

Oh, and it's got an R_0 of 5-8.

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Fuck.
Wonder how much of a tight rope Indians are walking considering they have 84 days between doses

Tuckerfan · Jun 23, 2021

We Are Borg · Jun 23, 2021

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Quincunx said: ↑

I'll go on record that people who make the stupid and selfish choice not to get vaccinated absolutely should be stigmatized. Because they're stupid and selfish.
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This really is an issue that, as far as I can tell, governments around the world have failed to address.

On the one hand, allowing unvaccinated people to come into a workplace (particularly in countries like the U.S. and Canada, where the vaccine is freely available) opens the employer up to all kinds of civil liability.

BUT... if an employer puts measures in place that (rightly) stigmatise unvaccinated workers in order to protect other workers, they also open themselves up to civil liability.

It's a lose-lose situation and it's ridiculous that this hasn't been addressed.
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Looks like Morgan Stanley took the bull by the horns...

Morgan Stanley's New York office bans unvaccinated staff and clients

Jenee · Jun 23, 2021

We Are Borg said: ↑

We Are Borg said: ↑

Quincunx said: ↑

I'll go on record that people who make the stupid and selfish choice not to get vaccinated absolutely should be stigmatized. Because they're stupid and selfish.
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This really is an issue that, as far as I can tell, governments around the world have failed to address.

On the one hand, allowing unvaccinated people to come into a workplace (particularly in countries like the U.S. and Canada, where the vaccine is freely available) opens the employer up to all kinds of civil liability.

BUT... if an employer puts measures in place that (rightly) stigmatise unvaccinated workers in order to protect other workers, they also open themselves up to civil liability.

It's a lose-lose situation and it's ridiculous that this hasn't been addressed.
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Looks like Morgan Stanley took the bull by the horns...

Morgan Stanley's New York office bans unvaccinated staff and clients
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Our CEO said we have to go back regardless. Of course, those not vaccinated have to wear masks and get their temp taken and all that. So ..., in this case, I'm not going to lie and say I didn't get it. But ..., if I worked for Morgan Stanley ....

Rimjob Bob · Jun 23, 2021

Joe Rogan and Brett Weinstein were all the buzz this week touting ivermectin as a prophylactic and treatment for covid. They interviewed Pierre Kory of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance, a group of well-established doctors who have been developing treatment protocols. They cite large success of the drug in many countries, mostly developing. It's cheap and and has been in use for 50 years for other things.

Also this week, Oxford has been begun to study ivermectin.

Miracle cure?

Chaos Descending · Jun 23, 2021

I've been hearing about ivermectin for months now but never took it seriously. Isn't it basically glorified heartworm medicine?

We Are Borg · Jun 23, 2021

New Delta PLUS variant identified in India

Just when we thought we were out, they pull us back in!

Quincunx · Jun 23, 2021

There’s a movie theater in Chicago that’s about to resume normal screenings, having survived it’s second global pandemic. It first opened in 1912.

https://blockclubchicago.org/2021/06/23/rogers-parks-new-400-theaters-survives-2-pandemics-returns-movie-screenings/

Uncle Albert · Jun 23, 2021

Rimjob Bob said: ↑

Joe Rogan and Brett Weinstein were all the buzz this week touting ivermectin as a prophylactic and treatment for covid. They interviewed Pierre Kory of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance, a group of well-established doctors who have been developing treatment protocols. They cite large success of the drug in many countries, mostly developing. It's cheap and and has been in use for 50 years for other things.

Also this week, Oxford has been begun to study ivermectin.

Miracle cure?
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No, it's Joe Rogan. The correct response is "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! "

Order2Chaos · Jun 23, 2021

Rimjob Bob said: ↑

Joe Rogan and Brett Weinstein were all the buzz this week touting ivermectin as a prophylactic and treatment for covid. They interviewed Pierre Kory of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance, a group of well-established doctors who have been developing treatment protocols. They cite large success of the drug in many countries, mostly developing. It's cheap and and has been in use for 50 years for other things.

Also this week, Oxford has been begun to study ivermectin.

Miracle cure?
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Not likely. TLDR: the same people who promoted hydroxychloroquine are now promoting ivermectin using the same language and methods, the the highest-quality studies show little or no effect, the in vitro studies aren't applicable in vivo because you literally can't take enough of it to get the required serum concentration, and if there is an effect it's not from the known antiviral properties of ivermectin (the virus replicates in the wrong part of the cell).

Tuckerfan · Jun 27, 2021

Well, this might solve some of the political problems in the US. Shame a whole lotta people gotta die to make that happen, though.

US fight against Covid threatened by growing vaccine gap in the south

In the United States, to bring about a long-awaited end to the Covid-19 pandemic, federal and state health officials have been urging all Americans to get vaccinated. But, amid stagnating national vaccine rates, some states in the south have been lagging behind when it comes to vaccinating their populations, raising fears of deepening regional disparities.

That raises the prospect that for a complex web of reasons much of the southern US will continue to experience the pandemic in a different way than the rest of America. That is especially worrisome as the south contains more communities that are more vulnerable to the virus.

Several southern states, particularly in more rural communities, have vaccination rates that are below the national average, according to data provided by the New York Times. In Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana, less than 50% of adults have received at least one dose of the Covid-19 vaccine. Georgia, Tennessee, Virginia, South Carolina, and other southern states are currently behind national vaccination rates.

“We’re all swimming against a strong current, in some areas, or pretty strong resistance because of the nature of people thinking together and reinforcing doubts about [the] vaccine in their day to day conversations with friends and family who are resistant to being vaccinated,” said Dr Michael Saag, a professor of medicine and infectious diseases at the University of Alabama at Birmingham.

Last week Joe Biden and Jill Biden made separate trips to southern states to visit vaccination sites and urge people in the region to get the vaccine.

Reasons for the gap in vaccination rates between northern and southern states are disparate and complicated. Hesitancy towards the vaccine, either given an underestimation of the pandemic in general or a fear of fast-developed technology, has been a road block for many. Combined with a generally poor medical infrastructure and many southern state officials providing mixed signaling on vaccinations, lower vaccination rates in the south continue.

“There are a lot of different pieces playing a role in why we are where we are,” said Dr Susan Hassig, an associate professor of epidemiology at the Tulane School of Public Health and Tropical Medicine.

Even amid the complexity behind the reasons for lowered vaccination rates, the consequences remain clear. The wide-majority of continued Covid-19 deaths are among unvaccinated people. The Delta variant of Covid-19, a more contagious and deadly strain of coronavirus that is currently on the rise, poses an additional threat to pockets of people who do not get the vaccine.

The political undercurrents behind vaccine hesitancy are hard to miss.

Throughout the pandemic, Republican politicians – locally and federally – have pushed for ending Covid-19 health measures like mask wearing and social distancing in favor of reopening businesses. More recently, Republican governors have shrugged off concerns of low vaccination rates, including the Mississippi governor, Tate Reeves, despite Mississippi having the lowest vaccination rates nationwide.

Data also suggests that those living in rural, Republican stronghold areas, and white Republicans in general, tend to be more resistant to the idea of getting vaccinated. According to Forbes, all 16 states that have met the July 4th goal of having at least 70% of their adult population receive one Covid-19 vaccine voted for Democrat Joe Biden in 2020. Additionally, southern cities like New Orleans, as noted by Hassig, which are usually more liberal, have much higher vaccination rates than their rural counterparts.

“The common denominator is that these are Republicans stronghold states. These are all deep red states so what we’re seeing in the US is the partisan divide around vaccination rates,” said Dr Peter Hotez, the dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine and the co-director of the Center for Vaccine Development at Texas Children’s Hospital.

But reducing hesitancy to an extension of political identity can miss the other nuances inherent to vaccine resistance. For many in the south, especially communities that have limited access to often-online Covid-19 information, fear of the vaccine’s short and long-term impact can drive hesitancy, according to Hassig. Similarly, mistrust and confusion around public health information can drive vaccine resistance for many, a sentiment shared across political divides.

“Hesitancy is a [catch-all] term that is a front for a very heterogeneous array of components that each need their own approach to address,” said Hassig.

Structural inequalities in southern communities, including a limited medical infrastructure, can also be an explanation for lower vaccination rates.

Southern states, in urban and rural communities, can also struggle with a lack of health infrastructure, restricting a person’s access to vaccine information and the ability to make an appointment.

In rural areas across the US there are “hospital deserts” where no medical facility exists for many miles. Rural communities and many southern cities such as Atlanta and Memphis can also have “pharmacy deserts”, areas where a pharmacy is difficult to access.

Additionally, uninsured people, who are less likely to be connected with a healthcare provider that can provide information on the Covid vaccination process, are disproportionately concentrated in the south, according to data from the US Census Bureau.

Especially for Black and brown residents in the south, who are disproportionately affected by lack of pharmacies and health insurance, vaccination clinics tend to be located away from communities of color, making the vaccination process even more difficult.

In the face of lowered vaccination rates, responses have varied. On a federal level, the Biden administration has implemented programs and campaigns specifically aimed at encouraging vaccines in the region. Biden and the vice-president, Kamala Harris, have also each taken trips to southern states in an attempt to bolster vaccination rates ahead of the July 4th goal.

Local health officials have also taken targeted steps to increase the amount of vaccines in their communities, leaning on community leaders to encourage vaccinations and dispel myths as well as implementing pop-up, sometimes mobile, vaccination clinics in hard-to-reach communities.

But with the mounting threat of the Delta variant and the gap in vaccinations in the south slowly narrowing, experts are concerned about how to more quickly get southern people, especially people of color, vaccinated and protected.

“All of those things have pretty much been employed, at least in my community, that I’ve seen first-hand and it is effective to a point, but we aren’t getting where we need to be in terms of a portion of people in our state who have been vaccinated,” said Saag.
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TheBrew · Jun 28, 2021

On no.
Anyway…

Shirogayne · Jun 28, 2021

Tuckerfan said: ↑

Well, this might solve some of the political problems in the US. Shame a whole lotta people gotta die to make that happen, though.

US fight against Covid threatened by growing vaccine gap in the south

In the United States, to bring about a long-awaited end to the Covid-19 pandemic, federal and state health officials have been urging all Americans to get vaccinated. But, amid stagnating national vaccine rates, some states in the south have been lagging behind when it comes to vaccinating their populations, raising fears of deepening regional disparities.

That raises the prospect that for a complex web of reasons much of the southern US will continue to experience the pandemic in a different way than the rest of America. That is especially worrisome as the south contains more communities that are more vulnerable to the virus.

Several southern states, particularly in more rural communities, have vaccination rates that are below the national average, according to data provided by the New York Times. In Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana, less than 50% of adults have received at least one dose of the Covid-19 vaccine. Georgia, Tennessee, Virginia, South Carolina, and other southern states are currently behind national vaccination rates.

“We’re all swimming against a strong current, in some areas, or pretty strong resistance because of the nature of people thinking together and reinforcing doubts about [the] vaccine in their day to day conversations with friends and family who are resistant to being vaccinated,” said Dr Michael Saag, a professor of medicine and infectious diseases at the University of Alabama at Birmingham.

Last week Joe Biden and Jill Biden made separate trips to southern states to visit vaccination sites and urge people in the region to get the vaccine.

Reasons for the gap in vaccination rates between northern and southern states are disparate and complicated. Hesitancy towards the vaccine, either given an underestimation of the pandemic in general or a fear of fast-developed technology, has been a road block for many. Combined with a generally poor medical infrastructure and many southern state officials providing mixed signaling on vaccinations, lower vaccination rates in the south continue.

“There are a lot of different pieces playing a role in why we are where we are,” said Dr Susan Hassig, an associate professor of epidemiology at the Tulane School of Public Health and Tropical Medicine.

Even amid the complexity behind the reasons for lowered vaccination rates, the consequences remain clear. The wide-majority of continued Covid-19 deaths are among unvaccinated people. The Delta variant of Covid-19, a more contagious and deadly strain of coronavirus that is currently on the rise, poses an additional threat to pockets of people who do not get the vaccine.

The political undercurrents behind vaccine hesitancy are hard to miss.

Throughout the pandemic, Republican politicians – locally and federally – have pushed for ending Covid-19 health measures like mask wearing and social distancing in favor of reopening businesses. More recently, Republican governors have shrugged off concerns of low vaccination rates, including the Mississippi governor, Tate Reeves, despite Mississippi having the lowest vaccination rates nationwide.

Data also suggests that those living in rural, Republican stronghold areas, and white Republicans in general, tend to be more resistant to the idea of getting vaccinated. According to Forbes, all 16 states that have met the July 4th goal of having at least 70% of their adult population receive one Covid-19 vaccine voted for Democrat Joe Biden in 2020. Additionally, southern cities like New Orleans, as noted by Hassig, which are usually more liberal, have much higher vaccination rates than their rural counterparts.

“The common denominator is that these are Republicans stronghold states. These are all deep red states so what we’re seeing in the US is the partisan divide around vaccination rates,” said Dr Peter Hotez, the dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine and the co-director of the Center for Vaccine Development at Texas Children’s Hospital.

But reducing hesitancy to an extension of political identity can miss the other nuances inherent to vaccine resistance. For many in the south, especially communities that have limited access to often-online Covid-19 information, fear of the vaccine’s short and long-term impact can drive hesitancy, according to Hassig. Similarly, mistrust and confusion around public health information can drive vaccine resistance for many, a sentiment shared across political divides.

“Hesitancy is a [catch-all] term that is a front for a very heterogeneous array of components that each need their own approach to address,” said Hassig.

Structural inequalities in southern communities, including a limited medical infrastructure, can also be an explanation for lower vaccination rates.

Southern states, in urban and rural communities, can also struggle with a lack of health infrastructure, restricting a person’s access to vaccine information and the ability to make an appointment.

In rural areas across the US there are “hospital deserts” where no medical facility exists for many miles. Rural communities and many southern cities such as Atlanta and Memphis can also have “pharmacy deserts”, areas where a pharmacy is difficult to access.

Additionally, uninsured people, who are less likely to be connected with a healthcare provider that can provide information on the Covid vaccination process, are disproportionately concentrated in the south, according to data from the US Census Bureau.

Especially for Black and brown residents in the south, who are disproportionately affected by lack of pharmacies and health insurance, vaccination clinics tend to be located away from communities of color, making the vaccination process even more difficult.

In the face of lowered vaccination rates, responses have varied. On a federal level, the Biden administration has implemented programs and campaigns specifically aimed at encouraging vaccines in the region. Biden and the vice-president, Kamala Harris, have also each taken trips to southern states in an attempt to bolster vaccination rates ahead of the July 4th goal.

Local health officials have also taken targeted steps to increase the amount of vaccines in their communities, leaning on community leaders to encourage vaccinations and dispel myths as well as implementing pop-up, sometimes mobile, vaccination clinics in hard-to-reach communities.

But with the mounting threat of the Delta variant and the gap in vaccinations in the south slowly narrowing, experts are concerned about how to more quickly get southern people, especially people of color, vaccinated and protected.

“All of those things have pretty much been employed, at least in my community, that I’ve seen first-hand and it is effective to a point, but we aren’t getting where we need to be in terms of a portion of people in our state who have been vaccinated,” said Saag.
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Unfortunately, it will be the very poor and those darker than a paper bag who will die in huge numbers. Not the politicians (all of whom have been vaccinated) who enabled this bullshit and not the rich people who can pay out the ass for treatment if it's severe enough for a hospital stay.

Diacanu · Jun 28, 2021

Shirogayne said: ↑

Tuckerfan said: ↑

Well, this might solve some of the political problems in the US. Shame a whole lotta people gotta die to make that happen, though.

US fight against Covid threatened by growing vaccine gap in the south

In the United States, to bring about a long-awaited end to the Covid-19 pandemic, federal and state health officials have been urging all Americans to get vaccinated. But, amid stagnating national vaccine rates, some states in the south have been lagging behind when it comes to vaccinating their populations, raising fears of deepening regional disparities.

That raises the prospect that for a complex web of reasons much of the southern US will continue to experience the pandemic in a different way than the rest of America. That is especially worrisome as the south contains more communities that are more vulnerable to the virus.

Several southern states, particularly in more rural communities, have vaccination rates that are below the national average, according to data provided by the New York Times. In Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana, less than 50% of adults have received at least one dose of the Covid-19 vaccine. Georgia, Tennessee, Virginia, South Carolina, and other southern states are currently behind national vaccination rates.

“We’re all swimming against a strong current, in some areas, or pretty strong resistance because of the nature of people thinking together and reinforcing doubts about [the] vaccine in their day to day conversations with friends and family who are resistant to being vaccinated,” said Dr Michael Saag, a professor of medicine and infectious diseases at the University of Alabama at Birmingham.

Last week Joe Biden and Jill Biden made separate trips to southern states to visit vaccination sites and urge people in the region to get the vaccine.

Reasons for the gap in vaccination rates between northern and southern states are disparate and complicated. Hesitancy towards the vaccine, either given an underestimation of the pandemic in general or a fear of fast-developed technology, has been a road block for many. Combined with a generally poor medical infrastructure and many southern state officials providing mixed signaling on vaccinations, lower vaccination rates in the south continue.

“There are a lot of different pieces playing a role in why we are where we are,” said Dr Susan Hassig, an associate professor of epidemiology at the Tulane School of Public Health and Tropical Medicine.

Even amid the complexity behind the reasons for lowered vaccination rates, the consequences remain clear. The wide-majority of continued Covid-19 deaths are among unvaccinated people. The Delta variant of Covid-19, a more contagious and deadly strain of coronavirus that is currently on the rise, poses an additional threat to pockets of people who do not get the vaccine.

The political undercurrents behind vaccine hesitancy are hard to miss.

Throughout the pandemic, Republican politicians – locally and federally – have pushed for ending Covid-19 health measures like mask wearing and social distancing in favor of reopening businesses. More recently, Republican governors have shrugged off concerns of low vaccination rates, including the Mississippi governor, Tate Reeves, despite Mississippi having the lowest vaccination rates nationwide.

Data also suggests that those living in rural, Republican stronghold areas, and white Republicans in general, tend to be more resistant to the idea of getting vaccinated. According to Forbes, all 16 states that have met the July 4th goal of having at least 70% of their adult population receive one Covid-19 vaccine voted for Democrat Joe Biden in 2020. Additionally, southern cities like New Orleans, as noted by Hassig, which are usually more liberal, have much higher vaccination rates than their rural counterparts.

“The common denominator is that these are Republicans stronghold states. These are all deep red states so what we’re seeing in the US is the partisan divide around vaccination rates,” said Dr Peter Hotez, the dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine and the co-director of the Center for Vaccine Development at Texas Children’s Hospital.

But reducing hesitancy to an extension of political identity can miss the other nuances inherent to vaccine resistance. For many in the south, especially communities that have limited access to often-online Covid-19 information, fear of the vaccine’s short and long-term impact can drive hesitancy, according to Hassig. Similarly, mistrust and confusion around public health information can drive vaccine resistance for many, a sentiment shared across political divides.

“Hesitancy is a [catch-all] term that is a front for a very heterogeneous array of components that each need their own approach to address,” said Hassig.

Structural inequalities in southern communities, including a limited medical infrastructure, can also be an explanation for lower vaccination rates.

Southern states, in urban and rural communities, can also struggle with a lack of health infrastructure, restricting a person’s access to vaccine information and the ability to make an appointment.

In rural areas across the US there are “hospital deserts” where no medical facility exists for many miles. Rural communities and many southern cities such as Atlanta and Memphis can also have “pharmacy deserts”, areas where a pharmacy is difficult to access.

Additionally, uninsured people, who are less likely to be connected with a healthcare provider that can provide information on the Covid vaccination process, are disproportionately concentrated in the south, according to data from the US Census Bureau.

Especially for Black and brown residents in the south, who are disproportionately affected by lack of pharmacies and health insurance, vaccination clinics tend to be located away from communities of color, making the vaccination process even more difficult.

In the face of lowered vaccination rates, responses have varied. On a federal level, the Biden administration has implemented programs and campaigns specifically aimed at encouraging vaccines in the region. Biden and the vice-president, Kamala Harris, have also each taken trips to southern states in an attempt to bolster vaccination rates ahead of the July 4th goal.

Local health officials have also taken targeted steps to increase the amount of vaccines in their communities, leaning on community leaders to encourage vaccinations and dispel myths as well as implementing pop-up, sometimes mobile, vaccination clinics in hard-to-reach communities.

But with the mounting threat of the Delta variant and the gap in vaccinations in the south slowly narrowing, experts are concerned about how to more quickly get southern people, especially people of color, vaccinated and protected.

“All of those things have pretty much been employed, at least in my community, that I’ve seen first-hand and it is effective to a point, but we aren’t getting where we need to be in terms of a portion of people in our state who have been vaccinated,” said Saag.
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Unfortunately, it will be the very poor and those darker than a paper bag who will die in huge numbers. Not the politicians (all of whom have been vaccinated) who enabled this bullshit and not the rich people who can pay out the ass for treatment if it's severe enough for a hospital stay.
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How bummed were you when the antibody transfusion and steroid cocktail saved Trump?

RyanKCR · Jun 28, 2021

Chaos Descending said: ↑

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-vaccine-cdc-meeting-myocarditis-heart-inflammation/

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced Thursday that it will convene an "emergency meeting" of its advisers on June 18th to discuss rare but higher-than-expected reports of heart inflammation following doses of the mRNA-based Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines.
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I'm just reporting what I am seeing. May very well be that the "emergency meeting" of CDC advisors will determine that based on the statistics, it's unlikely that the vaxxes are responsible for these cases.
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I got the Moderna vaccine and then had a scheduled VO2 stress test and echocardigram. Now I am going to going through a three day evaluation for heart transplant next month. Related? Probably not, but who knows.

The Original Faceman · Jun 28, 2021

Congrats! Moderna is giving you a heart!

Steal Your Face · Jun 29, 2021

Faceman said: ↑

Congrats! Moderna is giving you a heart!
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MikeH92467 · Jun 29, 2021

Faceman said: ↑

Congrats! Moderna is giving you a heart!
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There's another punch line for that set up...any takers?

RyanKCR · Jun 29, 2021

MikeH92467 said: ↑

Faceman said: ↑

Congrats! Moderna is giving you a heart!
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There's another punch line for that set up...any takers?
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If I only had a brain...

spot261 · Jun 29, 2021

Hope all goes well @RyanKCR

Bickendan · Jun 29, 2021

Kroger announced mask-free for vaccinated associates starting Wednesday in conjunction with Oregon lifting all restrictions.

(Covid spike in Oregon to happen in 5...)

Chaos Descending · Jun 29, 2021

We've been essentially mask free in Arizona for quite awhile.

Tuckerfan · Jun 29, 2021

The Original Faceman · Jun 29, 2021

Oh sure. “Canada” is “real” now. They have “vaccine”.

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