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Forbin · Jul 24, 2013

Who's gonna keep Sharpton's gob shut?

Volpone · Jul 24, 2013

Forbin said: ↑

Oh, and, I saw on some news footage of one of the protests, someone carrying a sing that said

"The PEOPLE have voted him guilty!!!!"

Sure glad THAT's not the way it's supposed to work!
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...although if a black President wasn't enough, a mob of blacks, lynching a white guy would certainly confirm we've stepped through the looking glass on race relations.

frontline · Jul 25, 2013

Paladin said: ↑

I'm sure, at least, that Zimmerman's case against NBC is going to go forward; I think he's going to get a very large check from them at some point in the future.
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Here's a question: If it does and he is successful, do you think he settles to where the judgement and award are kept confidential? Honestly forgetting the cash, I think a 5 minute intro to the nightly news and Today show where NBC has to fall on its sword and give a statement about journalistic integrity and how the lack there of can destroy lives would be justified.

Zombie · Jul 25, 2013

Krieg said: ↑

Zombie said: ↑

Actually it does matter who the real Trayvon was. Which is why his family tried to hide it from the public and the state was hell bent on not bringing up his past. The real Trayvon was a aggressive drug using kid who loved to fight. He also seems to be a gay basher since now Rachael Jenteal has implied on CNN that Trayvon was beating on Zimmerman because he thought Zimmerman was gay. Had the jury heard this they might not have even lasted an hour before a not guilty finding.

Had the state not tried to suppress this and ignore it they wouldn't have even charged Zimmerman.

And to Garamet it is apparent at this point that Trayvon was doing more then smoking weed.

His own texts show him looking for codeine to make purple drank. The replies back to him tell him to get Robitussin in order to make Purple Drank which two of the ingredients were Skittles and Watermelon Fruit Drink. The exact two things he bought that night.

His liver also showed damage. Autopsy Reporthpt=hp_t2 Something that in a otherwise healthy kid is abnormal and no pot can't damage your liver. The liver sustained damage from heavy drinking or drug use. Trayvon's texts lean towards the drug aspect.

Do you know the side effects of "Purple Drank" drug? agitation and paranoia.

Zimmerman has been slandered left and right. It's time that Trayvon got the truth about him exposed to the world.

Edit: Purple Drank is also known as Lean.
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I love me some Purple Drank. Also, there is no Robitussin in Lean, its codeine cough syurup only, and agitation and paranoia are not on the roster for me with that business, just extreeeem relaxation.
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Did Trayvon have codeine? No he didn't.

And he was told to use Robitussin. Which is used as a substitute for the codeine.

Zombie · Jul 25, 2013

John Castle said: ↑

oldfella1962 said: ↑

Paladin said: ↑

I don't think you have to disparage Martin in order to show that Zimmerman got an awfully unfair shake by the media.

Take that to the media? Maybe. But in terms of this case, I think the damage is done. Opinions formed at the outset by the media's pushing of the racial angle have now hardened.

I'm sure, at least, that Zimmerman's case against NBC is going to go forward; I think he's going to get a very large check from them at some point in the future.
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Zim can use the NBC money to pay out the Martin family for their civil suit. So basically he'll break even.
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The Martin family doesn't dare bring a civil suit. It would expose their little "angel" for the drug-using violence-addicted thug he was. They can't have that. Worse, dozens of people far more powerful and politically connected than the Martin family can't have that.

Oh, the Martins will get paid -- but not by Zimmerman. They'll get paid to keep their gobs shut.
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Yep.

If they were actually going to sue that lawsuit would have been filed before the trial had even started.

And if they wanted to wait until after the trial it would have been filed on Monday morning after the Saturday verdict.

There is no need to wait so long to file a lawsuit.

Zombie · Jul 25, 2013

Forbin said: ↑

Who's gonna keep Sharpton's gob shut?
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Sharpton. He's smart enough to know not to babble.

Bickendan · Jul 25, 2013

Krieg said: ↑

Ron Paul said: ↑

Would you shoot Krieg if he was high on purple drink, MMA'ing your head into a concrete sidewalk? Yahoo FB will ask another question later!
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I couldn't fight my way out of a wet paper bag on that shit.
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I gotta test this theory out...

Hey Krieg! How's a trip down to P-Town sound?

Bickendan · Jul 25, 2013

frontline said: ↑

Paladin said: ↑

I'm sure, at least, that Zimmerman's case against NBC is going to go forward; I think he's going to get a very large check from them at some point in the future.
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Here's a question: If it does and he is successful, do you think he settles to where the judgement and award are kept confidential? Honestly forgetting the cash, I think a 5 minute intro to the nightly news and Today show where NBC has to fall on its sword and give a statement about journalistic integrity and how the lack there of can destroy lives would be justified.
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Y'know... it's a good thing Tom Brokaw retired when he did. He would have ended up going the way of Dan Rather if he hadn't.

John Castle · Jul 25, 2013

frontline said: ↑

Paladin said: ↑

I'm sure, at least, that Zimmerman's case against NBC is going to go forward; I think he's going to get a very large check from them at some point in the future.
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Here's a question: If it does and he is successful, do you think he settles to where the judgement and award are kept confidential? Honestly forgetting the cash, I think a 5 minute intro to the nightly news and Today show where NBC has to fall on its sword and give a statement about journalistic integrity and how the lack there of can destroy lives would be justified.
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Never happen. Fucking never. You think Statists enjoy mocking Fox news right now? You're right. You think they want to give even a hair's-breadth of a justification to Americans to mock their favored propaganda outlets in kind?

Forbin · Jul 25, 2013

Zombie said: ↑

Forbin said: ↑

Who's gonna keep Sharpton's gob shut?
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Sharpton. He's smart enough to know not to babble.
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No so far.

T.R · Jul 25, 2013

Forbin · Jul 26, 2013

Gun Control Group Wants Ted Nugent Removed From NRA Board After "Racist" Comments

The "Cat Scratch Fever" rocker called Martin a "17-year-old dope smoking, racist gangsta wannabe" in a column for conservative media website Rare. Nugent continued to say, "The only racism on that night was perpetrated by Trayvon Martin, and everybody knows it."
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Not exactly sure what part of that is racist, unless you happen to be looking for something to SAY is racist, just 'cause you don't like the guy.

Or unless juts calling a black person racist is now racist.

Uncle Albert · Jul 26, 2013

Forbin said: ↑

Gun Control Group Wants Ted Nugent Removed From NRA Board After "Racist" Comments

The "Cat Scratch Fever" rocker called Martin a "17-year-old dope smoking, racist gangsta wannabe" in a column for conservative media website Rare. Nugent continued to say, "The only racism on that night was perpetrated by Trayvon Martin, and everybody knows it."
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Not exactly sure what part of that is racist, unless you happen to be looking for something to SAY is racist, just 'cause you don't like the guy.

Or unless juts calling a black person racist is now racist.
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I don't know about racist, but that shit about " dope smoking, racist gangsta wannabe" is exactly the sort of needlessly divisive and hyperbolic rhetoric that makes cases like this such a study in willful human ignorance instead of any real desire for justice.

Forbin · Jul 26, 2013

Pejorative it was, but no more than the shit that's been spouted about Zimmerman, and a tad more accurate in light of things learned lately. I put it in the category of frustrated outburst.

And the looking-for-outrage crowd cries "racism!!" ["he's a WITCH!"] at a harshly worded, though informed, opinion 'cause it sounds mean toward the poor dead gangsta wannabe. THERE's the divisiveness - the people shrieking "racist" at the drop of a hoody.

garamet · Jul 26, 2013

Forbin said: ↑

Pejorative it was, but no more than the shit that's been spouted about Zimmerman, and a tad more accurate in light of things learned lately. I put it in the category of frustrated outburst.

And the looking-for-outrage crowd cries "racism!!" ["he's a WITCH!"] at a harshly worded, though informed, opinion 'cause it sounds mean toward the poor dead gangsta wannabe. THERE's the divisiveness - the people shrieking "racist" at the drop of a hoody.
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Well, you just keep balancing the scales there, Whitebread.

T.R · Jul 26, 2013

Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee · Jul 26, 2013

Forbin said: ↑

Gun Control Group Wants Ted Nugent Removed From NRA Board After "Racist" Comments

The "Cat Scratch Fever" rocker called Martin a "17-year-old dope smoking, racist gangsta wannabe" in a column for conservative media website Rare. Nugent continued to say, "The only racism on that night was perpetrated by Trayvon Martin, and everybody knows it."
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Not exactly sure what part of that is racist, unless you happen to be looking for something to SAY is racist, just 'cause you don't like the guy.

Or unless juts calling a black person racist is now racist.
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The NRA should definitely listen to what a gun control group wants.

garamet · Jul 26, 2013

Ron Paul said: ↑

Forbin said: ↑

Gun Control Group Wants Ted Nugent Removed From NRA Board After "Racist" Comments

The "Cat Scratch Fever" rocker called Martin a "17-year-old dope smoking, racist gangsta wannabe" in a column for conservative media website Rare. Nugent continued to say, "The only racism on that night was perpetrated by Trayvon Martin, and everybody knows it."
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Not exactly sure what part of that is racist, unless you happen to be looking for something to SAY is racist, just 'cause you don't like the guy.

Or unless juts calling a black person racist is now racist.
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The NRA should definitely listen to what a gun control group wants.
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The NRA is doing more for gun control than any other group.

Tamar Garish · Jul 26, 2013

http://www.bet.com/news/national/2013/07/25/omari-hardwick-s-little-black-boy-wonder.html

14thDoctor · Jul 26, 2013

T.R said: ↑

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oldfella1962 · Jul 27, 2013

Tamar Garish said: ↑

http://www.bet.com/news/national/2013/07/25/omari-hardwick-s-little-black-boy-wonder.html
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Maybe every black gang-banging Chicago thug who ever killed a fellow black boy should take turns reading it. Wait - it would have to be Biblical in length because that happens almost daily.

frontline · Jul 27, 2013

Ya know that juror that ABC interviewed, the one that said that Zimmerman was guilty? Yeah apparently she didn't. Looks like ABC doctored the interview.

Gee where have we seen this before?

1. The phrase “got away with murder” was put in her mouth. Nightline shows ABC interviewer Robin Roberts asking Maddy: “Some people have said, ‘George Zimmerman got away with murder. How do you respond to those people who say that?’ ” Maddy appears to reply promptly and confidently: “George Zimmerman got away with murder. But you can’t get away from God.” But that’s not quite how the exchange happened. In the unedited video, Roberts’ question is longer, with words that have been trimmed from the Nightline version, and Maddy pauses twice, for several seconds, as she struggles to answer it. “… George Zimmerman … That’s—George Zimmerman got away with murder. But you can’t get away from God.”
You have to watch her, not just read her words, to pick up her meaning. As she struggles to answer, she looks as though she’s trying to reconcile the sentiment that’s been quoted to her—that Zimmerman “got away with murder”—with her own perspective. So she repeats the quote and adds words of her own, to convey what she thinks: that there’s a justice higher than the law, which Zimmerman will have to face. She thinks he’s morally culpable, not legally guilty.
2. She stands by the verdict. ABC’s online story about the interview ends with Maddy asking, “Did I go the right way? Did I go the wrong way?” But that’s not the whole quote. In the unedited video, she continues: “I know I went the right way, because by the law and the way it was followed is the way I went. But if I would have used my heart, I probably would have [gone for] a hung jury.” In another clip, she draws the same distinction: “I stand by the decision because of the law. If I stand by the decision because of my heart, he would have been guilty.” At one point, she says that “the evidence shows he’s guilty.” Roberts presses her: “He’s guilty of?” Maddy answers: “Killing Trayvon Martin. But as the law was read to me, if you have no proof that he killed him intentionally, you can’t say he’s guilty.” That’s the distinction she’s trying to draw here: Killing is one thing. Murder or manslaughter is another.
3. She thinks the case should never have gone to trial. According to ABC News, when Roberts asked “whether the case should have gone to trial,” Maddy answered, "I don't think so. … I felt like this was a publicity stunt.”
4. The jury was not ethnically divided on Zimmerman’s culpability. Unlike Juror B37, who spoke to CNN, Maddy doesn’t say—at least not in the edited clips—that Zimmerman was a good man or that Martin shares the blame. But some white jurors seem to have shared Maddy’s feelings. “A lot of us had wanted to find something bad, something that we could connect to the law,” she says. “We felt he was guilty,” she adds in other comments quoted by ABC News. “But we had to grab our hearts and put it aside and look at the evidence."
5. Race wasn’t discussed, and she didn’t focus on it. Unlike Juror B37, Maddy knows what it’s like to be profiled. She says it has happened to her while shopping. But she withholds judgment as to the role of race in this case. Roberts asks: “How do you respond when you see people who are making this about race, who are saying, had Trayvon not been a young black man, that the conversation would be different?” Maddy tilts her head noncommittally and responds: “Is it true? That’s the question to be asked.” In another clip, Roberts says, “That was something that a lot of people from the outside thought must have been the discussion in the deliberations, about race, about color. But that wasn’t the case?” Maddy affirms, “It was not the case.” When the verdict was announced and she was released from sequestration, she was dismayed to discover the national outrage. “I didn’t know how much importance” was attached to the trial, she says, “because I never looked at color. And I still don’t look at color.”
The value of colorblindness is controversial. Some people believe that when you don’t talk about race in a case such as this one, you’re excluding racial bias. Others believe that you’re simply overlooking that bias. But Maddy’s comments indicate that sequestration worked. The jurors focused not on the meaning of the case to outsiders, but on the evidence and the law.
6. She was no pushover in the jury room. “I was the juror that was gonna give them the hung jury,” she says. “I fought to the end .” Roberts asks: “Did you feel a little, for lack of a better word, bullied in the deliberations?” ABC News seems to have cut the video here, so we don’t know what was taken out. But in the edited video, Maddy’s next words are, “I don’t know if I was bullied. I trust God that I wasn’t bullied.” Roberts asks, “Do you feel that your voice was heard?” Maddy assures her, “My voice was heard. I was the loudest.”
7. To the extent she feels racial or ethnic pressure, it’s against Zimmerman. In the Nightline video, Roberts notes that Maddy could have hung the jury. Roberts asks: “Do you have regrets that you didn’t?” Maddy pauses, tilts her head, and thinks about it. “Kind of. I mean I’m the only minority. And I feel like I let a lot of people down.” In the GMA version, Maddy’s reference to being the only minority has been seamlessly edited out. But this theme returns in other clips. “I couldn’t do anything about it. And I feel like I let a lot of people down,” she says. And again: “I feel like I let ’em down. We just couldn’t prove anything.” She feels the anger and the cosmic injustice. But they don’t change her legal judgment.
8. Acquittal is not personal—or national—exoneration. This is what she’s really trying to convey. “Maybe if they would put [out] the law, and a lot of people would read it, they would understand the choices that they gave us,” she says. The tragedy of the case, and the long-standing sense of racial injustice that surrounds it, shouldn’t and didn’t dictate the verdict.
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Captain X · Jul 27, 2013

ABC should be taken to task, but naturally they won't.

Muad Dib · Jul 27, 2013

She should have known better than to be interviewed by ABC, CBS, NBC, or MSNBC.

It's garamet journalism.

Zombie · Jul 27, 2013

Damn.....

Fucking bastards at ABC.

That juror should sue them.

Zombie · Jul 27, 2013

http://theconservativetreehouse.com...history-of-intentional-manipulation/#comments

Dr. Krieg · Jul 27, 2013

Bickendan said: ↑

Krieg said: ↑

Ron Paul said: ↑

Would you shoot Krieg if he was high on purple drink, MMA'ing your head into a concrete sidewalk? Yahoo FB will ask another question later!
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I couldn't fight my way out of a wet paper bag on that shit.
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I gotta test this theory out...

Hey Krieg! How's a trip down to P-Town sound?
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Going there for my honeymoon. You wanna get crunk and box?

Paladin · Jul 27, 2013

Un-fucking-believable.

I'm becoming convinced that some in the media WANT racial unrest.

I'm also getting to the point where, whenever I hear something from the mainstream media, I'm not going to accept it at face value. The synopsis I got--several times--from ABC News was "Juror thinks Zimmerman got away with murder." And, now, it turns out that's NOT what she thinks.

Muad Dib · Jul 27, 2013

Paladin said: ↑

Un-fucking-believable.

I'm becoming convinced that some in the media WANT racial unrest.

I'm also getting to the point where, whenever I hear something from the mainstream media, I'm not going to accept it at face value. The synopsis I got--several times--from ABC News was "Juror thinks Zimmerman got away with murder." And, now, it turns out that's NOT what she thinks.
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I'm becoming convinced as well. Has news actually taken the step from reporting the news to making the news? Is there some guy like Elliot Carver in Tomorrow Never Dies?

shootER · Jul 27, 2013

Zimmerman Backlash Continues Thanks to Media Misinformation

The media fails, again.

Cathy Young | July 27, 2013

More than a week after George Zimmerman’s acquittal in the fatal shooting of black teenager Trayvon Martin, the backlash against the verdict continues. President Obama spoke some undeniable truths when he noted that the African-American community’s intense reaction to the case must be seen in the context of a long, terrible history of racism. But there is another context too: that of an ideology-based, media-driven false narrative that has distorted a tragedy into a racist outrage.

This narrative has transformed Zimmerman, a man of racially mixed heritage that included white, Hispanic and black roots (a grandmother who helped raise him had an Afro-Peruvian father), into an honorary white male steeped in white privilege. It has cast him as a virulent racist even though he once had a black business partner, mentored African-American kids, lived in a neighborhood about 20 percent black, and participated in complaints about a white police lieutenant’s son getting away with beating a homeless black man.

This narrative has perpetuated the lie that Zimmerman’s history of calls to the police indicates obsessive racial paranoia. Thus, discussing the verdict on the PBS NewsHour, University of Connecticut professor and New Yorker contributor Jelani Cobb asserted that “Zimmerman had called the police 46 times in previous six years, only for African-Americans, only for African-American men.” Actually, prior to the call about Martin, only four of Zimmerman’s calls had to do with African-American men or teenage boys (and two of them were about individuals who Zimmerman thought matched the specific description of burglary suspects). Five involved complaints about whites, and one about two Hispanics and a white male; others were about such issues as a fire alarm going off, a reckless driver of unknown race, or an aggressive dog.

In this narrative, even Zimmerman’s concern for a black child—a 2011 call to report a young African-American boy walking unsupervised on a busy street, on which the police record notes, “complainant] concerned for well-being”—has been twisted into crazed racism. Writing on the website of The New Republic, Stanford University law professor Richard Thompson Ford describes Zimmerman as “an edgy basket case” who called 911 about “the suspicious activities of a seven year old black boy.” This slander turns up in other left-of-center sources, such as ThinkProgress.org.

Accounts of the incident itself have also been wrapped in false narrative—including such egregious distortions as NBC’s edited audio of Zimmerman’s 911 call which made him appear to say that Martin was “up to no good” because “he looks black.” (In fact, Zimmerman explained that Martin was “walking around and looking about” in the rain, and mentioned his race—of which he initially seemed unsure—only in response to the dispatcher’s question.)

While this falsehood was retracted and cost several NBC employees their jobs, other fake facts still circulate unchecked: most notably, that Zimmerman disobeyed police orders not to follow Martin (or even, as Cobb and another guest asserted on the NewsHour, not to get out of his car). In fact, there was no such order. The dispatcher asked if Zimmerman was following the teenager; Zimmerman said yes, the dispatcher said, “We don’t need you to do that,” and Zimmerman replied, “Okay.” (Just before this, the dispatcher had made comments that could be construed as asking him to watch Martin, such as, “Just let us know if he does anything else.”)

No one except Zimmerman knows whether he continued to track Martin—or, as he claims, headed back to his truck only to have Martin confront him. No one but Zimmerman knows who initiated physical violence. Both eyewitness testimony and forensic evidence, including injuries to Zimmerman’s face and the back of his head, supported his claim that he was being battered when he fired the gun. It was certainly enough to create reasonable doubt. Yet accounts that deplore the verdict often completely fail to mention Zimmerman’s injuries. Thus, Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson says only that an unarmed “skinny boy” could not have been a serious threat to “a healthy adult man who outweighs him by 50 pounds”—nearly doubling the actual 27-pound difference between Martin and Zimmerman and omitting the fact that Martin was four inches taller.

The false narrative also makes it axiomatic that a black man in Zimmerman’s shoes wouldn’t stand a chance—especially if he had shot someone white. Never mind examples to the contrary, such as a 2009 case in Rochester, New York in which a black man, Roderick Scott, shot and killed an unarmed white teenager and was acquitted. Scott, who had caught 17-year-old Christopher Cervini and two other boys breaking into a car, said that the boy charged him and he feared for his life. (While the analogy has been decried as false in a number of Internet discussions because Scott actually saw Cervini doing something illegal, this is irrelevant to the self-defense claim: stealing from a car does not call for execution.)

What about general patterns? In the New Republic article, Ford cites a report in the Tampa Bay Times showing that “stand your ground” self-defense claims in Florida are more successful for defendants who kill a black person (73 percent face no penalty, compared to 59 percent of those who kill a white person). But he leaves out a salient detail: since most homicides involve people of the same race, this also means more black defendants go free. Nor does he mention that another article based on the same study of “stand your ground” cases from 2005 to 2010 noted “no obvious bias” in the treatment of black defendants—or mixed-race homicides: “Four of the five blacks who killed a white went free; five of the six whites who killed a black went free.”

One Florida case has been widely cited as a contrast to the Zimmerman verdict and a shocking injustice: the case of Marissa Alexander, a black woman said to be serving twenty years in prison for a warning shot to scare off her violent estranged husband. But that’s not quite what happened. Alexander’s “stand your ground” claim was rejected because, after the altercation with ex-husband Rico Gray, she went to the garage, returned with a gun and fired a shot that Gray said narrowly missed his head (a claim backed by forensics). There is plenty of evidence that Gray was abusive, but Alexander was not the complete innocent her champions make her out to be: she also assaulted Gray, giving him a black eye, while out on bail for the shooting and under court orders to stay away from him. Her twenty-year sentence, required by a mandatory minimum for firearm offenses, was a travesty; her conviction was not.

Liberals and disenchanted conservatives who decry fact-free ideological narratives, true-believer hysteria and willful reality-denial on the right should take a good look at the left’s Zimmerman Derangement Syndrome. Some far-right blogs have trafficked in bad information of their own, using Martin’s marijuana use, past fighting, and teenage social-media bluster to portray him as a thug and even spinning bizarre theories about his possible drug dealing the night of his death. Yet this instance, their misdeeds are dwarfed by far more mainstream liberal “faux news” (meticulously documented on a dissenting left-of-center blog, The Daily Howler). As a fiction, Zimmerman the white supremacist rivals Obama the Kenyan-born commie Muslim.

Obama was right when he said that the racial context—the context of a history in which just sixty years ago blacks really could be murdered at will for giving trivial offense to a white person, and of a present in which young black males still face the daily reality of racial profiling—gave Trayvon Martin’s death a powerful and painful resonance for black Americans. That made it all the more incumbent on the media to be scrupulously truthful and responsible in their coverage. At this, they have spectacularly failed, with deplorable consequences.

A version of this article originally appeared at RealClearPolitics.
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