So, the whole rep whining debate....

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  1. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    No, I wasn't staff here until Elwood made me moderator of the Blue Room. That began my rise to ultimate power.
     
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  2. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    Suuuuuure it is. All lawyers everywhere have one function: take something simple and make it needlessly complicated while collecting fees for doing so. A lawyer's job is to obfuscate.
     
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  3. Tamar Garish

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    Rep War is the norm and it runs off no one but someone who either wants to leave already or has some bizarre attachment to green colored squares.

    You'd be surprised...people who have fun playing as a poster very often have different views once they have some responsibility for the board.

    Besides, owners generally don't rep war, like Admins. Why? When you can win every time if you want to. That doesn't mean we never neg rep, we just don't "war" with it.

    For example...Scorp was on staff for awhile and did a good job while there...he left because he wanted to play, IIRC. But he never acted out while he was staff.
     
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  4. Jenee

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    Right.

    Well, aside from completely missing my point, you've certainly cleared that up.
     
  5. Tamar Garish

    Tamar Garish Wanna Snuggle? Deceased Member

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    I know what you're saying.

    But the nature of the Red Room is that it's a tough pill to swallow and these people who run away rather than say, spend more time in the other forums...it's their problem.

    We have one..two forums that are unmoderated and people want to change them rather than just stay in the other forums because apparently the mere fact it is allowed to exist is too much for some people.

    Plus we have ignore for both posts and people. No one has to be subjected to anything they don't want to and the power is in their own hands but they refuse to use it and continue to cry about hostility.
     
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  6. KIRK1ADM

    KIRK1ADM Bored Being

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    You first.
     
  7. Jenee

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    I'm not complaining.
     
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  8. Asyncritus

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    These two are contradictory.

    Platform invalidated. :bailey:

     
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  9. Asyncritus

    Asyncritus Expert on everything

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    This is another area of major disagreement with you concerning the role of board owner. The "ability to continue funding" is necessary, it is even a sine qua non of ownership, but it is not a sufficient condition and not even the number one condition. The number one condition is the ability to provide a board that the membership is happy with, more or less. (I say "more or less" because there will always be discontent; trying to get a bunch of internet users, especially a group with a heavy libertarian tendency such as a lot of posters here display, to agree 100% with what an owner is doing is ridiculous. There will always be a few who will complain loudly, if for no other reason than there are some posters who do little else in life.) Borgs had the ability to continue funding, but he was basically faced with a revolution, showing that is not enough in itself.

     
  10. Asyncritus

    Asyncritus Expert on everything

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    As much time as I spend south of the equator, do I get to be counted as an honorary Southerner?

    I promise you, I won't harrass you for your [-]ridiculous revisionism[/-] opinion on Civil War History.

    At least, not very often.

    "Often," of course, being a subjective term...

    :D

     
  11. Megatron

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    VERY BORING!

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  12. Eminence

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    Hmm, is rep really so important? When I look in my User CP and the latest 15 Reputation I've given, I have rep going back to October 2010.

    I guess I need to start doing more with rep? :unsure:
     
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  13. $corp

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    I don't think I've ever tried to "run" Jenee off the board. In fact, I don't remember interacting with her much at all, so I don't get where she thinks I'd be a big bad mod. :shrug:
     
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  14. Robotech Master

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    Owning a message board sounds like a huge headache to me.
     
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  15. KIRK1ADM

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    No, it's because you are stupid.
     
  16. KIRK1ADM

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    Lanzman participated in rep war this week.
     
  17. $corp

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    Thank you! :heart: And let me also point out that no one on staff ever said "You cannot rep war while you are on staff." I chose to refrain from it to make the board as a whole look better and prevent the whiners from complaining that a mod was actively rep warring.

    Not that I "rep war" much anymore anyways. I think the last real rep war I actively participated in was quite awhile ago. (Though I will neg rep a bunch of posts by one user if I disagree with all they are saying in that particular thread.)
     
  18. Jenee

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    I don't know if you'd be a good or bad mod. My assessment was for ownership of the board. Would you be able to be impartial between a poster you liked and one you don't like if it came to helping create a welcome environment for both posters?
     
  19. shootER

    shootER Insubordinate...and churlish Administrator

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    Same here.

    I couldn't imagine myself being "driven off" by rep under any circumstances, though. I don't understand that mindset one bit.

    It's just a message board, but if I want to stay here, I'm going to stay no matter what anybody else says or does about it.

    That's why I quoted that part of garamet's post.
     
  20. Stallion

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    Were El Chu to own a star-trek related internet messaging board, he would be the epitomy of cool!



    No offence Lanzman.
     
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  21. The Exception

    The Exception The One Who Will Be Administrator Super Moderator

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    No offense El Chup, but there are far better candidates for ownership.
     
  22. Jenee

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    I get what you're saying - and garamet.

    But ..., if all I get, everytime I post, is a "disagree" - even if there are no points and no red or green, just a continuous streem of negativity ... how is that fun?

    Turning the rep off and just responding to people who you know will respond in a decent manner is fine and would work to, I imagine, but ... it's fun to get "agrees" once in a while and the little comments some people put it.

    Maybe I'm just too ... happy for red pips.

    BTW, where's that "I live in a fantasy land" emoticon? and why isnt' that one named after me?

    Of all the emoticons, that one or the tantrum should be named after me - not that stupid police car.

    I'm thinking I'll do a poll to see which one everyone thinks should be named after me. What do you think?
     
  23. Sokar

    Sokar Yippiekiyay, motherfucker. Deceased Member

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    Here, let me save you the trouble....

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  24. actormike

    actormike Okay, Connery...

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    Like I said in another thread, reset it all to zero. Most people won't really care either way, but the few people who care a lot (and claim not to care at all) will whine relentlessly.
     
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  25. El Chup

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    Why is it that only those with rep pips say "reset it to zero"?
     
  26. Parallaxis

    Parallaxis Reformed Troll - Mostly

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    I said that too, along with lower the amount of points it takes to move the rep bar up and down. I think three really bad threads should be enough to put you in the red, while three really good threads could put you back up in the green. Let's make rep actually interesting.
     
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  27. $corp

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    I think I would. I'd treat the board as any other business venture. Why would I alienate certain segments of the board and drive them off? That would be counter-intuitive to having a place with an active and healthy membership. Yeah, I can do that as a poster, but if I'm running the place and my goal is to have new members feel welcome, me personally driving them off would be bad for 'business'.
     
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  28. $corp

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    We have reset it all to zero once. And pretty much the same thing happens. The people who are in the red now end up back in the red, and the people who get a lot of rep still get a lot of rep.

    In fact, I would bet if you started a dual and continued posting the way you do, that dual would be firmly in the red in a matter of weeks without anyone knowing it was you. It's not our problem you sometimes post like an insufferable twat.
     
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  29. Sokar

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    Indeed.

    An idiot by any other name is still an idiot.

    :bergman:
     
  30. actormike

    actormike Okay, Connery...

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    Hey, it's important to be hated by the right people.

    But if rep means that much to you...
     
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