the Jussie Smollett incident - what say you wordforge?

Your partisanship has made you blind and unable to think rationally.

Take a joke, ya baby.

You don’t need to write a motion to dismiss charges. It can be done orally on the record.

Oops......

How do you do this by accident?

You don't.

sounds like tap dancing because you got called on your bullshit.

Smollett's lawyer says they are considering suing the police and city.



That would be epic because he would have to prove the police were wrong and there is no way he can do that.

So it's probably just an empty threat.

This doesn't seem like the best example to set - lie to authorities and the public, waste valuable resources, cause extreme and unnecessary division amongst your fellow citizens.....and then walk from it?

Guaranteed.

ya know.....maybe the guys buying the rope in the store are actually evil doppelgangers and were the ones who attacked Smollett for real! Damn I should have went to law school with my "think outside the box" attitude!

smollet is quite the trend setter! To "pull a Smollett" might become part of our legal lexicon if it catches on!

"Jussie Smollett, when the MAGA attacked."

Oh wait, you said he was in big trouble and going to jail. You were wrong. He was not in big trouble at all. He got treated like everyone else in that he got a lawyer and got his first offense dismissed. All your anger went nowhere and he was not the worst person in the universe for his mom violent offense. Shows what you know. It also shows how misguided you can be when trying to lynch a black person who could afford a decent lawyer.

By all rights, he should have. That some corrupt officials got off him off the hook was somewhat unforeseeable.

Still may face federal charges.

He got a grand jury indictment on 16 counts dismissed in a totally shady fashion. This is NOT how the typical person would be treated, and it was totally inappropriate given the high profile nature of this case.

Smollett is a liar, and the whole thing was a hoax. I'm happy to say that to anyone, anywhere, and I welcome his suing me for libel.

It is called paying for a lawyer, and it has been done for many people. Go down to your local court and sit through the criminal trials for a while and then get back to us. It happens every fucking day to many cases across the country. It is why lawyers get aid so much because they can keep you out of jail. he did not invent that process, and it has been a method of the rich afluenza people for a while.

Please do cut your lies out. If you want to complain about how lawyers can get the guilty lower charges or the case dismissed then complain. If you want to put him as the creator of this shit for getting off on his first non violent fourth degree felony you have a shitload to learn about the American justice system. Assuming you have no convictions you will get this treatment also on a non violent crime and spend much less than a 10k bond surrender and he did on his Hollywood layer. The only horrible thing to you people is the black guy getting what used to be a white privilege for having enough money to afford better than a PD.

See, that is not libel, because you are a worthless twat. You actually have to have damages, which you cannot cause him.

Do make yourself a little more educated on how American law works. You are probably the type who thinks he would have been cast down with the murderers and raped in the ass for his crime. He was not going anywhere near that in low security prison for celebrities.

Sorry to burst your white racist bubble.

I’ll just leave this right here.

is Tererun totally off task and staging yet another racial filibuster? No matter how apparent (to the same among us) it is that nobody gives a shit about Smollett's skin color Tererun is still dragging race into it and (spoiler alert) putting words in people's mouths and tell them what they are really thinking. One-trick-pony to the extreme!

So for all you psychology experts - is there a technical term for Tererun's obsession with thinking everyone who doesn't share her viewpoint is a racist?

Whoa....hold on here....post #1217 in the very bottom of the video: a zoo elephant died TWICE in a month? We need to get a grip on these damn elephant resurrections!

let me explain a grand jury indictment to you. His lawyer never got the ability to present his side. An indictment just says there might be a case there while the prosecution presented their theory without his defense. That is not a conviction, and it is not beyond a reasonable doubt. It is at best probable cause. This is why his lawyer would have had an easy time getting a not guilty verdict.

All his lawyer would have to do is present a motive for the two witnesses to lie if there was no smocking gun, or a direct connection between him and the evidence. All his lawyer has to do is present a case that they were against him for being gay and maybe get some evidence they were MAGAts. They went out and purchased the rope. They stalked him and hid from the police that night. They may have even lied in their initial questioning by the police under oath making them guilty of perjury on paper or recorded statements. They physically beat him up. All his lawyer needed to do was get some witnesses that they were anit gay and went to beat him up. Instant reasonable doubt if there is no other direct evidence he planned it. His lawyer will just say they lied to police to make reasonable doubt to avoid prosecution because the police did not want them. Even the check being large could be said to be money he paid them in blackmail because he was being threatened.

The police needed more and may not have had it. A criminal jury would be presented with this sort of he said/he said evidence and reasonable doubt is not guaranteed. Especially if bhe could present witness evidence they were MAGAts who hated homosexuals. You don't even need the racist angle. The authorities got what they could which was 10k, and skipped the costly trial which would have been a media fiasco. They also did not have to jail him where he might have been a victim of prisoner and guard threats by people like @Zombie who are corrupted prison workers, or poor prisoners who might have tried to get him to give them money to ensure he did not get beaten up and tossed into solitary with them.

They made a profit, he lost a lot, and justice was served on a low level non violent crime by having him surrender his bond. It is all about money. He would have had a Hell of a discrimination case if they went after him harder than other similar criminals because he was black,gay, famous, and the target of MAGA anger. As for the envelope they may still get him on that if they can connect him directly to it with physical evidence.

Actually homophobic you moron. I don't think the black brothers beat him up for being black, but keep on that line showing your idiocy.

I can’t tell if @Tererun is on or off her meds, either way it’s hilarious.

You have been to court on non violent charges before. Now DUIs might be a bit different from what I have seen. However, your first time you were pretty much given a break because your offense was non violent and you had a lawyer? Am I wrong on that? If I am you got hosed. This is SOP for low level non violent first offenders. 10k may be a bit much for a regular person, but in a relative sense he got what everyone gets when they fuck up like this.

If people have arguments with what happened to Smollett they really need to start looking at the way courts work. This is not new or even odd. This is how first time offenses work. This is why you hire a lawyer because they don't fight everything and this shit happens all the time.

It was insane to expect that they were going to go through great expense to go after him for a nothing crime.

There is a huge difference between what happens in court and what people who have never been to court think happens in court. It is not dramatic. It is not Law and Order. It is more like Mcdonalds in most cases. Judge Judy is more dramatic than normal court.

OK, I have been there multiple times, and this is to be expected. This is your legal system in the US.

For @Paladin, @Zombie , and anyone else who thinks the district attorney tries to hammer the guilty. You are wrong.

I got caught for Identity theft red handed. I had the names, social security number, addresses, phone numbers, and a lot more information on the president of TWC Manhattan and the surrounding NYC rich areas. I had local politicians information because they were rich. I was interrogated by the secret service because of how much identity information I had. They had me red handed at my arrest with information on my personal computers, on paper in my handwriting, and printed false IDs at my house in other real people's names. They had me on camera at UPS stores checking for credit cards I applied for in other people's names. When I was busted there was no defense. It was a slam dunk case, and I was holy shit guilty, and I targeted powerful people for revenge.

They gave me a huge deal, and they knew I was not connected with any criminal enterprise because the Feds looked over everything and dropped it into the lap of the state. I had already had my chances. I was convicted on felony hit and run, and had multiple misdemeanors for driving on a suspended license and firearm charges in the past. They still cut me a deal. I am not famous or powerful. My lawyer was not even top of the line. I got four months and 3 years probation. As soon as I hit jail they were trying everything to get me out. It was not because I was white, it was because that is what they do for everyone who is a nonviolent low security offender.

Your American justice people are rarely trying to get the guilty. The only times that ends up happening is because of things like racism where the prosecutors have an axe to grind. Even then the prosecutors are not really the problem when it comes to court because they are often trying to hide the racism in the system by lowering black incarceration numbers by giving out deals. The racism in the system would be so much worse if it was not for the reality that they push a lot of black people out, and it is because overall the police go after black people.

You have no idea because you have never seen it. This is how the system works, and it is all about costs and budgets. The prosecutors are told to cut more deals when they cannot pay for more incarcerations. They literally start releasing people long before their sentence is over because it frees up space. The more we punish people the more they release people. That is because you are at max capacity in most facilities and it costs more to build more facilities. This is how it works for everyone, and black and brown people just get picked on more.

I stand corrected! Everyone you don't like is racist and/or homophobic. BTW the black brothers were impersonating MAGA white guys so Smollett was instigating racism and homophobia by his sociopathic, irresponsible, and cowardly antics. Funny really - Smollett can't find white guys willing to attack him for being black & gay so has to outsource it.

he could find white people willing to do it. but they are not likely to stop when he wants.

I realize that's the case for a DUI that's a first offense (class a misdemeanor in IL), but 16 felonies?!?

I did say much earlier in the thread that the prosecution would go with the "shotgun effect" in hitting him with every charge and hoping a few of them grow legs. Obviously this didn't quite pan out, but Smollett so far is loving life.

It is a legal thing. It is the same story told multiple times to multiple people. It would be like if I said 2+2=5 and you said I was wrong the number of times people saw that equation.

If losing 10k and your lucrative career is a way of loving life you might be a coke addict.