the Jussie Smollett incident - what say you wordforge?

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  1. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    For shame. :(

    Don't you know that you're supposed to hate those who disagree with you? Jack Johnson is my guy. I hate that guy John Jackson.

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  2. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    My first question is: Who is Jussie Smollett?
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  3. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    black gay actor who plays the black gay son of the rap music mogul main character on the tv series "Empire"
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  4. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    there is no cover-up. But it's not the cops job to publicly speculate or offer personal opinions especially during an ongoing investigation.

    Today a thought hit me - he must have been targeted. :chris: Otherwise would two guys hang out with a noose and "some liquid" and say "damn it's cold! I hope the next guy walking around here alone is black so we don't waste our time!" in a realistic situation? They must have known his habits & patterns, right? Something to think about.
  5. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    actor in a TV show - Empire.
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    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    Remember the white chick in 2008 who said black Obama supporters attacked her and carved a "B" into her forehead? Only the dumb bitch cut the B backwards because she cut it herself in the mirror.

    People do stupid shit all the time especially if they think it advances their political views or if they are a failing actor looking for publicity. :shrug:
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    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    Did that just occur to you? :wtf: Of course they were targeting him specifically, not just any random black/gay victim they happened to find. This is consistent with the threatening materials which were previously sent to his workplace.
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    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    :facepalm: Except he's not a "failing" actor. He stars in a long-running show and also pursues a successful music career.
  9. Zombie

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    So that exempts him from being stupid?
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    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    :goalposts:

    Of course not, it exempts him from being a failing actor desperate for publicity, particularly the adverse publicity that would come from getting caught lying about this.

    So uncommon stupidity and/or mental illness are your only options here and there's no history of either.
  11. Zombie

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    Except I never said he was a failing actor.

    Just a stupid one.
  12. Quincunx

    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    It's a circular argument:

    "The attack is a hoax."

    "Why do you say that?"

    "Because he's stupid."

    "How do you know he's stupid."

    "Because he made up a hoax attack."
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  13. Quincunx

    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    "Hoaxes have occurred, therefore every report must be assumed a hoax until definitively proven otherwise."

    Except no amount of evidence does seem to disprove conspiracies, at least to those who believe in them. One can always "twist" facts to fit multiple narratives. At this point a real attack seems more plausible to me than an elaborate, easily disproven hoax. If I am wrong then so be it, but crying hoax right away is premature and unjustified.
  14. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    Except few are claiming hoax. Zombie made an early call - how much you wanna bet he'll admit he was wrong if it turns out the attack actually occurred? Oldfella stated 'if hoax then very disturbed individual.' Do you disagree?

    You never shoot your mouth based on a 'smell test?'
  15. Rincewiend

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    And in this case also very racist...
    But it's no surprise that the "I'm not racist, but" crowd are saying it's a hoax...
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    fair enough - so if you are being targeted walking around by yourself at 2:00 AM is a smart play?
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    so Rincewiend - how exactly is it racist to doubt what seems to be a made up story just because the victim happens to be black? :chris:
    Let's pretend we all heard a similar story (attacked but no actual proof days after the attack) but without the race or sexual orientation of the victim (or persons of interest) revealed. Any bets nearly everyone would be skeptical? I would take that bet.

    My point is nobody is obligated to believe you just because you happen to be black, white, gay, straight, etc. And I'll be damned if I'll be shamed into altering my thought process because of somebody's race. 2 + 2 = 4 every fucking time. 2 + 2 = 5 if 5 is black? Sorry, that shit doesn't fly.

    Let's put it this way: if my own son at age 28 (his current age) were attacked and
    1) waited 40 minutes to call the cops, passed security right after the attack but didn't yell "holy fuck dude! I've just been attacked!"
    2) didn't get others (more witnesses the better) to smell his clothes or put his clothes in a bag to seal up the smell
    3) didn't immediately give his phone to the cops before he (my son) had a chance to hide or alter anything on the phone
    4) was out by himself for any reason other than mission-essential activities AFTER likely being targeted days only days before

    I WOULD CALL BULLSHIT! Do you have kids? Would you believe a story after considering my four points? Would you shift into dumping all reasoning ability because your kid apparently dumped all reasoning ability and/or is making shit up for whatever reason?
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    Never made that argument.

    Was asked why he would do it.

    Replied that people do stupid things.
  19. Zombie

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    If they come out with an attack I’d be admitting I was wrong and taking my lumps.

    But I also believe that the left, including the ones on this board will if it’s a hoax, belittle the right and ignore the fact it’s a hoax.
  20. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    Am I the only one surprised that Dayton knew this with such specificity?
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  21. Dayton Kitchens

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    Why wouldn't I? It was a good show. I like to watch it because I knew a bunch of my black students (especially the girls) enjoyed it and I wanted some modern cultural stuff in common. They were impressed when I accurately predicted that Lucius would turn out to not actually be dying.

    At any rate, the disdain Lucius, the music mogul had for his talented son because of his homosexuality was one of the major points of conflict early in the show. Especially as that son was the favorite of his mother.
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  22. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    I just never would have pegged you as someone who would enjoy, or even heard of, that show. :shrug: No offense intended.
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  23. Dayton Kitchens

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    I've been partial to Terrence Howard (Lucius) for some time. Going back to the Law & Order franchise and of course Ironman.

    And I almost forgot, Mr. Holland's Opus, which is kind of a touchstone movie for those in the education field.
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    He was also really good in Hustle & Flow. :yes:
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    Apparently I was mistaken.

    Clearly some racist red-hats do watch the show. :jayzus:
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    Jussie Smollett is a tough dude! Apparently in the 60 seconds during which his attack could have taken place, he actually fought off the attackers AND preserved his Subway sandwich intact!

    :salute:
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  27. Dayton Kitchens

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    He deserves to get a commercial for that.
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    The new Jared, minus the paedophilia? :cool:
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  29. The Original Faceman

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    Why is everyone surprised @Dayton3 is a Jussie Smollet fan?

    @Dayton3 ’s preference for gay black experiences has been well chronicled on WF. His favorite being the football locker room fantasy. Obviously.
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  30. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    Just WTF.

    Fuck you and keep you "concern" about the black community to yourself if you don't understand this at fifty fucking years old.

    :jayzus:
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