A Majority of Palestinians think that it's A-Ok to kill Israeli kids

That's very interesting, if not at all relevant.


If you believed someone stole you land, how would you respond?

I'm guessing that most rational people, after having their asses handed to to them in two wars that they, (they being those whose asses are being handed) started, and living in sub-ghetto conditions for over 50 years because my "leaders" and every supposed "friendly" power in the region was more interested in using my "plight" as a PR tool against Israel than they were in helping me and mine, I'd either get the hell out of Dodge or start working to whack the PLO and Hammas assholes responsible for keeping this crapfest going. That's what I'd do.

You fucking racist piece of shit. How dare you call an entire people "scum"?

Dress it up in polysyllabic justification all day - that fools a lot - but you are the most fascist, dangerous, hypocritical hate-monger that I've ever come across.

Just wondering when the history of self rule by the Jews on that territory occurred? Never mind, I see that they last held dominion over the area in the 7th century.

So where was David Ben-Gurion born Bear? How about Golda Meir?

In six decades, I've set to see Israel do anything that I would label "going too far".

Yeah, I'd have to agree with the scum argument.

The Palestinians could have considerably more than they have now, but they just can't seem to help themselves.

Hell, the majority of their kids could have been integrated into Jordanian society by now if they had let them live there peacefully.

Instead, they annexed a section of Jordan for their own to run a terrorist campaign against Israel, refused to back down when the Jordanian government told them they couldn't launch a war from Jordan's territory, rioted, and tried to overthrow the King of Jordan, backed by a division of Syrian armor.

There were about 500 minor firefights between PLO forces and the Jordanian Army in 1970 alone. Then there was a major battle between 250-300 Syrian tanks that supported the PLA and a Jordanian armor brigade that left almost a hundred tanks burning hulks.

They've made their own place in the world with their violence, hatred, barbarism and scorn.

And then when in later days Fatah grew up and finally started to work with Israel in order to find some way to coexist, they get voted out and they fucking put Hamas in their place.

Decade after decade after decade of making the worst possible choices has gotten them to where they are today. They aren't strong enough to defeat Israel, and the rest of the Arab states use them primarily to stoke up the bigotry of their people. No one will give them the same opportunity that King Hussein did because they saw the results of that - an attempted coup and a war in the country giving them sanctuary.

It's a shame that their children are brought up into that, but unless you smash them yet again and put their children into re-education camps all you are going to get is the same hateful bile.

Scum? At the very least. Fuck, that's being generous.

There's a penalty for being stupid on that scale.

Unfortunately their children pay it as well.

Please, don't stop there.

Give it to us in gory details. Links. Pictures. YouTube clips. Dazzle everyone with how evil right-wing Americans are, won't you please? I'm sure you'll have no trouble at all documenting your blanket characterization.

Come on Dan, you're the expert on American shortcomings.

Educate us.

That must be some kind of fantasyland.

Mexico's military is so pathetic that Texas could defend itself with just the National Guard.

Hell, just our civilian population outguns their military.


Also, would the white Mexicans also be in these camps?

The situations aren't analogous.

The primary difference being there was no history of self-rule in the Palestinian area (literally the last time Palestinians ruled Palestinians, they were Jews), and the British Empire turned over the issue to the UN, who decided on a partition plan to allow each group to live in the area separately, as the rising violence on both sides, and the fatwahs issued by the Mullahs indicated there was little chance of them living together peacefully.

The Palestinian nation would exist right now if they hadn't called on the rest of the Muslims in the region to destroy Israel.

The fact that they've lost every war since, even those they launched against their purported allies because they didn't hate Israel enough, has reduced them even further.

So, if the United States had been a conquered nation for two thousand years, and pretty much every other nation in the world agreed to set aside some of its territory for a group of people they had oppressed and didn't like, yeah, I'd be ridiculously pissed.

But after 60 years, I'd be thinking of how my hatred affected my children.

Not a lot of that going on.

But then, it's not just political, its religious. Texts in the Quran are explicit as saying it's every Muslim's duty to defend Mosques from unbelievers, and every where Islam exists they create Mosques. Therefore any loss of territory to a non-Islamic group is an affront to God and Islam.

This is the same religious bullshit we've been seeing for millenia.

Can't argue that last sentence.

That's the problem with only having the one god, everyone wants to be his BFF.

At least the Israelis don't make hatred part of the curriculum. Poll after poll shows the Israelis want to negotiate an end to the hostilities, but Palestinians support terrorism.

Short of invading the Palestinian territories, I don't see what can be done. It's tragic, but the next generation of Palestinians will be even more hateful and radical than the current one.

If I were an Israeli leader, I'd now be thinking long and hard whether I want a Palestinian state. If the Palestinians are determined to hate, maybe they should be kept weak and poor.

Yes, the kids are victims in that their parents are preparing them badly for the world. Hate is not a coherent strategy for progress.

But kids become adults and adults should be able to reconsider what they've been taught.

It isn't a criticism directed at their race, but at their culture. They are hateful, genocidal, terrorist scum who teach their children to be hateful, genocidal, terrorist scum.

Dear me, I had no idea I was invested with such power!

I'd love to see peace in the Middle East and a stable Palestinian state. But you know why that isn't going to happen? The Palestinians! Because peace isn't good enough for them, only victory over their hated enemy. Which is never going to happen, either.

Is Palestinian a race now?

I'm always confused by the changing benchmarks...

Since when did Israel steal any land?

Really, who cares?

Israel has a more powerful military....obviously they will kill more Palestinians.

The whole thing that gets me is that Fatah was willing to work with Israel...in fact, for once in the past 50 years of bloodshed, TRUE progress was being made.

And then they Palestinian people went and kicked Fatah out and elected Hamas.

I have NO more sympathy for them.

This notion of the Palestinian's land being stolen puzzles me, Turkey has more of a claim on Palestine than the "Palestinians" themselves do.

That means they're more aggressive?

Shit like that happens when the cowardly fucks who bomb Israel like to blend back into the civilian population after carrying out their attacks, civilians deaths wind up being part of the collateral damage but they aren't deliberately targeted by the IDF.

They're more aggressive in expanding because they've always wound up winning in control of more territory after winning the numerous wars that their neighbors have sparked?



If Egypt hadn't forced Israel into the 67 war then there would be NO settlement problem.

Sorry....but reading through the actual factbook about Israel...I still fail to see where Israel 'stole' land.

When 3 different nations attack you not only once, but twice....I think you have the right to kick their ass and take their land.

In fact, all the occupied territories were captured during the 6 day war....which BTW, Israel didn't start.

Shit poor reason and you know it.

Fatah was willing to actually do something about the bloodshed....obviously the Palestinians didn't want that.

Therefore I have no more sympathy for them.

Going back to 1918 and the strong Arab opposition to the Balfour declaration I see nothing has changed in a 100 years.

*sigh* 90 years later we still get to hear about this same shit in the news.

If only those pesky Jews would have been kind enough to die to the last man, woman and child the first time all their neighbors attacked them. Then we wouldn't have this problem.

No, but it's nice that you think so. Palestinians have had their chances for peace, and have never shown the slightest bit of interest. Israel has never been offered peace from her neighbors. Only destruction. You are being intentionally stupid about how these people feel about having Jews amongst them.