Challenges to Obama's Presidential Eligibility are Growing...

Personally I don't really care. If the guy has been living + working in America for this many years, I consider him an American, even if I don't care for the guy or his ideas.

Alright, first of all, that "natural-born" crap is discriminatory and an anachronism in this modern world of ours.

Secondly, his mother was an American living in Hawaii. His parents didn't separate until he was two. There is no part of that that suggests he is anything but eligible for the office of the President of these United States.

Take your goddamn tinfoil hats off.

Not at all. It's just as relevant today as it was when the Founders and Framers wrote it into the Constitution.

Explain to me why my friend can't run for President, even though he's been here since he was five.

Actually, it's not. It was put in there to help protect an initially weak nation from outside influence, but we've been top dog for so long that it doesn't really matter anymore.

At this point it doesn't really matter, he is president. If he is or isn't a citizen, well it just goes along with the rest of the vetting that the MSM didn't do because they were so in love with the idea of a black president. If anyone tried to remove him now because of this or basically anything else, it would start a race war.

Actually, none of the first few Presidents were natural born Americans. I can't find a grandfather clause either...

It continues to protect a weak-minded nation from outside influence. Remember awhile back when there was a movement to repeal it so Arnoid could run for Prez?

Wha...?

For starters, George Washington was born in Virginia.

Before it gets all lawyer talk in here, let me post an article from usconstitution.net about what exactly you need to be to run for president in the area of citizenship:

From: http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html

He was born a subject of a foreign crown.

That he later joined the United States is of no matter.

Yeah, but he wasn't a Kenyan.

That would be the clause right after the natural born citizen clause: "a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution."

Of course you're still right that the natural born citizen clause is, at best, an absurd anachronism.

He has provided his real, actual, legitimate birth certificate.

That it's a copy produced by the state of Hawaii makes no difference whatever.

I do, and I think everyone who even entertains the notion that there is any shred of truth to these ludicrous accusations is an idiot.

It seems pretty clear that being born in The US and/or being born outside of it to a US citizen who had lived here for a year is all he needs. He has that by all accounts. Not getting this crap.

This seems to be true for Obama...
And all the latent racism that is part of this "conspiracy" is interesting to watch...

I prescribe a double dose of shut-the-fuck-uppers, all around.

And no, Chris, this is not an "in" for you to get an illegal Mexican elected and cede the southwest to Mexico.

1) All that is statutory, and so is irrelevant to the question of constitutional eligibility for office;

2) Constitutionally speaking, there isn't a court in the country that wouldn't hold that the child of an American citizen, born in the United States, is a natural born citizen, and anyone claiming that Obama isn't the child of an American citizen or wasn't born in the United States is loonier than a creationist on a continuous LSD drip;

3) "Latent?" Ain't nothing latent about the racism of the kooks claiming Obama might not be a natural born citizen. They're entirely out of the closet and straightforward in their racism.

I didn't know there was a prejudice against Hawaiians...

Bullshit. There is no one in this thread who is like that.

His birth certificate will end all talk of his eligibility to be president on this board.

Wrong sir. They never provided a copy of the original. They printed up an electronic edition.

Now we know that all it takes is too get a relative living in Hawaii to give a statement that you were born there to get a electronic birth certificate.

We know he has the original birth certificate in the state of Hawaii. Release it and all these goes away.

There is zero reason to release it.

This is the same bullshit argument that the Democrats used (along with many on this board) when John Kerry tried to fake his way around actually releasing all his military records.

Have you seen McCain's birth certificate? W Bush's? Bill Clinton's? HW Bush's? Reagan's?

He's clearly a secret Muslim.

I don't know what it's like elsewhere, but I don't even have my original birth certificate, all the county gives me are certified, notarized copies, which is what I assume a "computer copy" would be similar to. It would essentially be a scanned image of the original, but somehow digitally certified or notarized. If we can't trust our notaries, who can we trust??

Bush got away with it, so will Obama.

Given that Geithner and Bernanke are about a thousand times more likely to destroy this country than Obama, I really don't care anymore.

All of them provided a certified copy of original to certify they were eligible.

Obama provided an electronic copy. Why? The original birth certificate is in Hawaii. Why did he not provided a certified copy of the original birth certificate? Why go through the hassle of getting an electronic version?

I believe he is eligible to be President but he's stupid if he thinks this is going to go away by ignoring it. Get a copy of the original birth certificate and end this.

HASSLE? YOU EVER BEEN TO HAWAII?!

I'm not paying for a goddamn plane to fly a stupid peace of paper to satisfy you're goddamn, weird-as-fuck paranoia.

LET IT GO.

Stop bringing that stupid shit into this thread. No one here believes it nor cares even if he was.

Obamas electronic version is not notarized.

And of course you won't have your original birth certificate. You will get a notarized copy of it.

Bush did not violate the constitution. Your dislike of him and his policies doesn't equal breaking the constitution.

I'm not finding anything at the Hawai'i State Department of Health website about "electronic birth certificates" and the only stuff I can find about Hawai'i issuing electronic birth certificates are conspiracy theory and crackpot websites referencing the thing, but not actually giving any more info on the matter.

Maybe you're confusing the fact that relatives are able to request a copy of the birth certificate?

Really you saw the copies?

Why should getting an "electronic" copy be more of a hassle?

Maybe he doesn't give a shit whether "it goes away" or not. You're assuming that this conspiracy theory is bad for Democrats when it really just makes Republicans look like braindead fanatics.