Challenges to Obama's Presidential Eligibility are Growing...

lol

Ever hear of Fed-Ex?

The man doesn't have to go in person.

Idiot.

Oh please. Suspension of habeas corpus, warrant-less wiretapping, detaining prisoners indefinitely while torturing them, just to name a few. Need me to cite the exact parts of the Constitution for you?

I was curious if thekenyan.com was available for purchase. It is not!

Habeas Corpus was never suspended.

Warrant-less wiretapping on foreign phones? Legal. So legal that even Obama has not stopped doing them.

Detaining prisoners caught on a foreign battlefield? Legal.

Torturing them? Intensive interrogations. Legal.

I honestly think every one of these bitter, sore, losers needs to be hit in the head with a baseball bat until they understand that the democratic process worked, yet their guy still lost. Damn bitter bitch babies.

So was slavery, and we changed the Constitution to get rid of it. We have not yet changed the Constitution to remove the requirement that the president be naturally born. It's the law.

That being said, this is all giving me a chuckle. I don't think for a minute anyone, SCOTUS or otherwise, is going to overturn the Obama presidency. If the first black pres was booted 'on a technicality', imagine the civil unrest and rioting that would happen.

Although it might be fun to watch on TV.

I'd get lots of overtime!!!

It's a win-win.....

FOR ME!!

Okay, first of all....there is a 99.9999% chance that Obama has all the legal papers he needs to be POTUS.

But, secondly.....he should present them. He is the most important public figure in the United States, and there should be 'nothing' secretive about his life. I can't figure out why his original birth record wasn't presented to the Supreme Court, and made available to the public back 12 months ago when he first said he was running in the primaries.

Yes. There was a dispute over his citizenship because he was born in the PCZ, so he quite rightly provided his birth certificate.

I havn't seen them, but they have all BEEN MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. The problem with Obama is that he hasn't made the original available. It would have a lot of information, like the hospital he was born in and the doctor who delivered him. The electronic printout his campaign provided can be created by having a single living guardian provide information, and requires no first party doccumentation. Obama MUST have been born in the United States to be a natural-born citizen, because his mother wasn't old enough to qualify him on her own (she was only 18).

His official, signed birth certificate would clear up ALL disputes the instant he provided it, and he is the ONLY President who has ever refused to produce a birth certificate when asked. Why doesn't this trouble you?

We need more than this.

Did you know that in New York you can no longer get a copy of the original, it's a computer print out only. I don't know if they keep them yet don't distribute them, but that's how it is here.

But an original copy still exists in NY, and can be subpoenaed/reviewed as needed.

Well, nobody is 'asking' to actually HAVE a copy of the original.

All Obama has to do is give a copy of the original, along with a signed statement from Roberts that verifies that the original is genuine....to CNN and end all of this bullshit.

It doesn't trouble them because he has a D before his name. Really that's all that it is. The left doesn't give a fuck as long as the person in question is on their side.

Let Obama be a Republican and see how many of them would be howling like rabid dogs that he release a copy of the original to the public.

They don't care.

I ain't ever heard of no Anama Canal...

Nope. I'm pretty sure (the state law website is down at the moment) that by statute the copy serves as valid evidence for all purposes for which the original might be used, and you're never getting the original by subpoena or otherwise.

Regardless, in Hawaii and most states original birth certificate copies CAN be provided upon request of the named person or their legal guardians, so I don't really know why this is relevant to Obama refusing to provide a copy of his birth certificate.

Wrong.

Obviously.

A court especially SCOTUS could compel the state to produce it.

No law could ever prevent a court from demanding the state show it in order to use it in a case. The court could say a law like that is unconstitutional and just toss it to the side.

Now you and I on the other hand might not get away with trying to compel the state to produce the original but a court order will get it.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Which is the "short" version if the certificate...
The same that was on the Obama campaign site...
The "long" version can only be released with permission of the person, in this case Obama, him or herself...
As factcheck, Jim Geraghty of National Review Online and others have stated the short version is the real thing and there is no reason to think his long-form birth certificate would have any different data...
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWVjN2I1MjlhM2ZjZjRjYzBkODAxZjZkZGQyYWNkMDk=

I guess Chief Justice Roberts should be hanged for treason then for allowing Obama to become president.

Several reasons:
- I'm not American
- it is painfully obvious that Obama was born in Hawaii as the son of an American woman and completely qualified as "natural born citizen" to be president
- it's fun to see that people are still going on about this, and like I said, you're not doing your side any good by pursuing this insane theory

So release it and end the argument.

The argument that it won't stop the nutters is true. But they are nutters. Nothing will ever stop them. But all the non-nutters who are constantly being troubled by this could then drop it and go on.

Nobody is troubled by this. It's just a patently idiotic hook for the sour grapes set to bitch. At this point they're much like the monkeys at the zoo who fling their feces at the bars.

Perhaps, but I think that the shit flinging monkey is communicating a concept more complicated than anything a birther could ever understand. "Go away or I'll fling more shit at you" is beyond a birther's comprehension. Basically, the birthers are saying "stop laughing at us or we'll fling more shit at ourselves," and they've got a long way to go before they surpass the monkeys' reasoning and communications skills.

I don't find joking about the execution of the Chief Justice to be funny, but regardless it isn't his job to vet presidential candidates.

Being born the son of an American woman who was only 18 and who hadn't been living continuously in the United States means that her involvement alone isn't enough to qualify him as a natural-born citizen. He MUST have been born in Hawaii for the qualification to be genuine.

Who's persuing? I havn't signed any petitions, I'll just continue to point out it's damn odd that the first black US President, one who lived in Indonesia and has passports issued by foreign countries, who has a father AND a stepfather that were foreign nationals, has DECLINED to provide incontrovertible proof of his citizenship.

I'll point it out to anyone who asks, and if he produces a verifiable birth certificate to the I'll stop, and so will everyone else. It's just odd he refuses to.

SHUTUP YOU YOU CRAZY MOTHERFUCKING WALKING CARPET!!!!!!

HOW DARE YOU QUESTION THE MESSIAH!!1111 HOW DARE YOU EXPECT HIM TO DO WHAT EVERY PRESIDENT BEFORE HIM HAS DONE!!!!

HE'S AMERICAS FIRST BLACK MAN IN CAHRGE AND YOU ARE A RACIST TO DEMAND PROOF OF HIS CITZENSHIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

GO DIE IN A FIRE YOU NEO-CON PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Except Republicans really did stage fake riots to stop recounts in 2000, and they really did purge tens of thousands of eligible voters from voter rolls in Florida. Now, there wasn't any feasible remedy, so Bush was always going to end up President and the complaints would have been better directed at making future elections more fair, but the complaints about the 2000 election were largely legitimate complaints. There's nothing even vaguely legitimate about the birther nutters. They're not like the people who say the 2000 election was stolen; they're like the 9/11 truthers who say that George Bush was in on the plot with bin Laden.

It's an electronic copy, if we're going to be pedantic.

There is no reason whatsoever to think that the copy on file in Hawaii differs from the copy released by the Obama campaign. It's notarized and completely valid from a legal POV.

Obama has done everything that a reasonable person would be expected to do. Marching to the tune of looneys who are trying to use this as wedge issue doesn't make much sense. Responding to such people only serves to legitimize their claims.

If he did 'everything reasonable' how come when McCain's status as 'natural born' was contested the first thing he did was provide the actual, original signed doccument? Why is giving someone EXACTLY WHAT THEY ASK FOR unreasonable?

That sir is an astonishingly weak rationalization.

but typical of leftists who would be demanding Obama reveal the birth certificate if he was a Republican.