"Heroes" Season Two!

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Dude, I swear I was thinking the same thing regarding "Matt, Mohinder and Molly: Two Moms and a Little Lady."

It would be nice to see the Sylar vs. Peter slugfest, but I can be a little more patient for the time being. I just wish they'd speed things up.

Catching S1 on DVD was quite satisfying. I don't know if I would have had the patience to make it through S1 one week at a time. But I made it, S1 paid off and I'll give S2 a chance.

They did have a slugfest in the alternate future episode. It just didn't see much screen time.

The problem with a showdown is that (a) you can't top it and (b) you have to keep doing it over until it's dull too.

The challange of writing super-heroes has always been how to make drama consistantly out of a person who has unbeatable resources.

The problem is that they made Peter, literally, unbeatable.

Even Sylar, at his peak, wouldn't be a match for Peter right now. Peter'd mop the floor with Sylar.

So in the first season, Peter couldn't control his powers until the last ep.

And now, Peter has amnesia.

All of which are attempts to keep him from just God-moding every obstacle facing everyone in the cast. Like Superman losing all his powers in the presence of Kryptonite so Luthor can pound on him.

I wish they HAD killed Peter. A character as powerful as him can't be challenged. He'd even slap Superman aside.

Think about it: No matter how powerful you are, the minute you step up to the plate against Peter, you're toast. Cause he has your powers. He has destroyed your advantage.

It would have been better if Peter hadn't been able to absorb all the powers Sylar has absorbed, if all he could do was absorb Sylar's base power. Then we could have a more even fight between them.

Claude disagree's!!!

Like any superhero-supervillian fight, the winner or loser could be tailored to whatever the writers want to do.

There are several ways that a Sylar powered up to last-season levels could defeat Peter:
1. Sneak attack.
2. Peter's overconfidence.
3. By forcing Peter to sacrifice himself (i.e. "Surrender or I nuke this city."
4. Lucky shot that gets a shard of glass into the brain stem (it worked before).
5. Acquiring new powers that overmatch Peter's.
6. Recruiting allies/henchmen.

We don't really know the full scope or limitations of Peter's power. At some point the first season, he said the way it worked was that he had to think of a Hero and how that person made him feel. Presumably, that limits him to using one power at a time because he can only think of one person at a time. If that's the case, he remains eminently beatable despite his array of powers.

On the other hand, he seemed to channel Niki's superstrength without even knowing it.

Even assuming he absorbs all of a hero's powers doesn't mean that he knows how to use them to the same effect or that he can't be outmanuevered.

In the case of Superman, assuming he could leech Superman's power and he no longer had the limitation of having to think of how the person made him feel, Superman could still beat him just because Supes is a veteran of fighting at that power level. None of Peter's other abilities are anywhere close to the level of a relatively depowered Supes, at least as far as we have seen.

I can think of several heroes who could take Peter:

1. Green Lantern
2. Iron Man
3. Batman (with enough time to plan)
4. Rogue

Batman could easily defeat Peter, simply because there are no powers to steal.

But Peter has the powers of a bunch of other mutants. Batman would lose, because he only has gadgets.

edit: effing nerds.

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NERRRRRDS!!!

Well, as I said, first season Peter was played up as unfamiliar with his powers so he could be beatable.

But not without stretching credulity. Let me demonstrate.

In "Five Years Gone", though, we see him using multiple powers at the same time, so this is apparently only a limitation in his own mind. And since he has amnesia this season, and CAN'T think of fond memories of people he knows (And how fondly can he think of DL anyway?) then we know he doesn't actually have to be thinking of a person to use his or her powers.

Exactly.

He'd have all of Supes powers...AND radiation. And phasing. And healing. And telekinesis. I just can't see Superman winning that one.

I feel like a dork running through all this, but I'm tryng to demonstrate that even if certain people MIGHT win a fight against Peter in CERTAIN conditions, the odds are always heavily stacked in Peter's favor. As a villain, he'd work very well, but a hero has to have SOME kind of underdog aspect to him. Peter doesn't really have that anymore, once you lift his amnesia.

Edit: And I should mention that throwing people from real comic books into the SEVERELY underpowere Heroes world just to beat Peter only serves to emphasize my point. You have to go to a world where people can knock planets out of orbit before we find someone who can put up a fight against Peter.

Fair enough.

Sniper + .50 cal sniper rifle + scope + surprise = dead Peter.

Indeed.

But then that kind of ruins the point of a super-hero battle. I mean, yeah, there ARE ways to surprise him, there ARE ways to kill him. We could drop a bomb in his lap from 20,00 feet. But that isn't why I watch heroes. I like to see a fight every now and then, ya know?

Just sayin' that nobody's unbeatable.

Nikki, for example, nearly killed Parkman, in spite of supposedly "telegraphing" her every thought.

To be fair, Nikki is superstrong and Parkman is fat.

If the Hulk were fighting me, I bet I could tell WHEN he was about to take a right hook, but he'd still clobber me like a little bitch.

So was everyone just bored by Monday's installment?

Evil Veronica Mars isn't the most compelling, but at least she's interesting. However, considering half the episode was devoted to Monica bitching and Parkman having a bad trip, it wasn't the best episode ever.

I found, well, what happened to both Petrelli's to be much more interesting, though the sappiness of Peter + Foreign Chick was a little over the top.

I agree with The Leach... best ep of S2 so far, which is not saying much, unfortunately. As much as I like Monica, I was hoping that she'd do something a little more daring than jumping double dutch rope to test her powers.

As far as The Petrelli saga goes, I really would like to see Pete spazz out just once... I know Nate has been running away from his powers his whole life, but can we see somethnig a little more exciting than reading minds and tomato flowers? When will Sylar ,get back to true form?

Daddy Parkman and Veronica Mars brought some much needed excitement for a minute. I find myself wondering who she was talking to on the phone... Does she belong to The Company?

It was nice to see Nikki/Jessica this week too.

And even though I was bored, it was still nice to see Monica get more screen time.

***Don't fucking read this if you're gonna bitch about spoilers. You were warned. Shut your whine hole.***







So, it looks like what's-her-ass can only mimic physical skills, so we shouldn't look for her to become another Peter. Did they force her to take the "cure," or not?

And was Nikki's new role as "partner" supposed to imply a threat of violence if Mohinder refuses to follow orders again?

It's time to wrap up the "Hiro in feudal Japan" arc. The sword fights ain't all that impressive, and I'm not finding the doomed love story as compelling as the writers would evidently hope.

I hope Peter's cute Irish girlfriend doesn't get killed, but I'm also about done with "gimped Peter". Done with "gimped Sylar" too, for that matter. It's time they both get their powers back. Time for Sylar and the Wonder Twins to get the fuck where they're going.

Growing a little weary about the "high school" segment of the show. I could not possibly care less about Claire's efforts to get even with some fucking cheerleader. And Flyboy #2 is an annoying little weasel. I don't know who that shit is supposed to appeal to, but it sure as hell is not me.

Her step dad is at least a bit more interesting, but the "paintings" storyline is kinda weak so far. Another new character we have no reason to care about, dead by the end of the episode.

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And didn't ya just love the portrayal of the civilian border guard militia-types? Nope, no agenda there.

The border-guards pissed me off. Minutemen never interact with the illegals, they just report them.

How badass was noah? "Take the day he met his wife." That'll break you quick.

Not. Bob, the company guy, escorted her back home. The company guy a) said they covered Monica's absence both at her job and with her family b) gave her a bunch of contact info if she runs into trouble c) gave her an iPod of product placement, that would allow her to "download" virtually any skill she might need and d) encouraged her to be what the city needs. (i.e. a symbol of hope and kick-ass crimefighter).

Given all that, I'm under the assumption the injection of her was all just a test of Mohinder and whether he was willing to follow orders.

I took it that it was really Jessica, and yes.

Well, at least the season plot was sorta revealed. Something to do with New York's evacuation--maybe the modified viruses that Mohinder smashed really do go on to become an epidemic like he predicted. Hopefully next week won't be more boring ass filler. I still don't get what Hiro and Kinsei's Excellent Adventure has to do with the overall season arc yet.

^We already knew about the Legacy...I mean, the Shanti virus being one of the plots this season. We perhaps didn't explicitly know that it was going to turn into such a widespread deal.

There's speculation is that Hiro's Excellent Adventure is relevant to the overarching plot because...

It hasn't really been a season plot, but simply a small part of the Nanny Mohinder plot. I mean, it was only reintroduced this last episode.

Edit: Unless you are referencing something from an article about the show, in which case please use spoiler tags.

Hey! "What's-her-ass" happens to be my next ex-wife!!

My wife actually made me LOL while watching last night. In the middle of Monica's training she goes "Didn't somebody show her ass some Bruce Lee flicks last week?" I guess she wants some action just like me.

I wholeheartedly agree. How much can the special effects hinder the budget? Must we wait unitl sweeps week before we get some action?

BTW, isn't that female wonder twin Callisto from X-MEN: The Last Stand? The Mutant that kept kicking Halle Berry's ass?

Yeah... that and the rebuild New Orleans theme is getting on my nerves. Still watching and hoping for a big pay off to be somewhere in sight by the end of November sweeps.

No, what I said was based exclusively on previously aired material.

In retrospect, it seems clear that Mohinder was recruited by the Company at least in part because his blood is the only known cure for the virus and his ability to further research it.

From the second episode, we had the scene where Mohinder was sent into cure the Haitian from the virus, and the Company Guy expressed concern that it was spreading.

Ah, that might explain

Maya? I don't think so, but she played A.J.'s hot girlfriend in the last season of The Sopranos. She looks rather spectacular naked.

White Room?

Yes, she is!!

If anyone needs me, I'll be in the White Room.