Heroes

just seen ep 22, and it just continues to surpass expectations. i don't think i've looked forward to a season closer this much since buffy's 'graduation day', and out of current shows i enjoy watching, i think only bones matches it in quality, even BSG pales against it. heh, it pisses all over the x-men trilogy too - we need a heroes movie in the near future methinks...

and given how krings changed his plans for S2, be interesting to see which characters make it for next year and if they can match sylar in terms of all round badness.

Well only half of New York gets blown up so he could just have been in a different part at the time.

He never said he had been trying for a long time to create a gifted offspring. He said that he had waited a long time for a Nakamura to "ascend". That leaves a lot of ideas open.

Maybe he isn't even Hiro's real father, but Great-Great-Great Grandfather or the like?

So what do you guys think, Kirby Plaza - where Bennet met Claire and Peter and Sylar eavesdropped on them - is homage to Jack (co-creator of X-Men)?

It's an homage to Kirby's Dreamland.

However I think the name of that sword shop was an homage to someone involved in comics.

And swordsmith Claremont in the last episode is an homage to Chris Claremont.

Scruff's spoiler on page 8 had a bunch of good and mediocre speculation - but based on the hints they'd showed us up to that point there was one bit that sounded really plausible (imo, anyway) - and it turned out to be dead on, and nailed the ending.









































Nice work, Scruff! The only bummer is that it made so much sense at the time that it stuck in my mind from two weeks ago, and made Nathan's arrival somewhat less of a surprise.

I liked the finale, fun stuff.

what did i miss?

Argh.

I lost satellite right after Sylar and Peter confronted each other and picked back up when Nathan flew Peter away.

What did I miss?

Also -- you know Peter will be back.

Not seen it

BBC gets heroes in July.

FUCK!! I left it on some PBS thing, and missed it!!

I'm always like "duhr!! nothing good on monday! Lee dee dee!", cuz for almost a decade, there HASN'T been.

Damn you, NBC!!!

....ah well, there's the friday SF rerun.

One good spoiler deserves another:

Ok, a few things;

1. In "5 years gone", Peter used invisibility and TK simultaneously.
2. Does anyone besides me think it was completely unnecessary for Nathan to do what he did? Shooting Peter and reviving him later would've solved the problem without loss of life.
3. For anyone who missed Heroes, you can watch it at NBC.com tomorrow.
4. Am I crazy, or was that George Takei in that suit of armor?
5. Sylar went down like a bitch, and Hiro kicked ass!
6. I want to clone Molly and raise my own super-adorable daughter.

^^^
1. think you are right
2. my first thought
3. N/A
4. also my first thought
5. Hiro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
6. she's a sweety alright...

To all the creative talent behind Heroes...


Well played.

Ah, but that's Future Peter who has had five years to develop his use of his abilities, and with the extreme motivation of having been responsible for NYC blowing up.

I don't think we've seen present Peter manifest more than one ability at a time.

Where do you shoot him that you are assured of stopping his exploding and yet are able to revive him?

You could go for a head shot, but there's no reason to think Peter would be able to regen from that.

Shooting Ted with a bullet in I believe his shoulder helped start a chain reaction several episodes back that could have taken out the whole block if Claire wasn't able to stop him. I don't think we can tell if it was the fact that his skin was no longer intact or if it was the shock of being shot leading to a loss of control on his part or what. I do know I wouldn't want to take the chance.

Damn fine episode. The only real complaint is Sylar apparently living. Surviving his death twice is a little too much (if that's what happened). As cool a badie as Sylar is I really don't want to see the heroes perpetually chasing him.

And that was definitely Takei as the samurai.

Shoot him in the fucking head! The throat, whatever. You can take the bullet out later and he'll be fine.

As I said originally, shooting the person in the head doesn't guarantee that there will be enough brain left to regenerate.

There's also a possibility, depending on what kind of gun used, that the bullet would go through his head and he would regenerate immediately, leaving you back at square one or worse. The two cases where the regen ability was stopped was when there was a foreign object lodged in the person's brain at the base of it.

Shooting anywhere else that doesn't kill him might cause an instant explosion.

Of course, they could have tried tranquilizers, but for some reason it seemed they didn't think of that alternative.

OMG Forbin!! My evil twin?!?!

I hope Parkman makes it. Takes balls to go up against Sylar when your only power is mind reading....even with a gun.

And Bennet, I suspect, is going to have real problems with Grandma Petrelli next year.

It may be your cockroach theory (upthread) has some traction - at the very end of "Volume 1," when the camera panned by the manhole through which Sylar presumably escaped (or was taken), there was a large bug crawling along the edge of the manhole cover, and it looked a lot like the cockroach we've been seeing on and off during the series. I'm guessing it's not the same one as from Sylar's cell, but still, why so much camera time on cockroaches? Unless it's meant as a false clue? If Sylar was able to survive, it would be because of an as-yet-unrevealed power he stole, perhaps per your theory, cockman.


Anyone else wondering about Mrs. Petrelli, and the big Evil she and Linderman wanted to prevent that was worth the millions of lives half of NYC? The world's ill, that needed curing? I mean, the bitch was so sure she was right and that Charles Deveux was wrong about the bomb being inevitable, and now she loses Nate and has to live with consequences of being wrong about it (assuming she has a conscience).

Peter has the dream-vision power from past episodes, which he probably got from his mom or dad. For now I'm assuming Peter's new power came from Deveaux (since Deveaux was not surprised by Peter's dreamvisit to the past, and could even tell he was invisible). But the point is that Mrs. Petrelli may be the one who gave Pete the dream-vision ability, which could explain why she was so confident of a worse future that she'd willingly sacrifice half of NY (she's been dreaming about it for fifty years). Then again, maybe it was Mr. Petrelli with the dream vision (and thus why he was suicidal, except that fucker Linderman kept healing him).

So, it would seem, she was wrong; or maybe a future season will reveal another, future, threat that replaces the bomb with another disaster, that makes her and Linderman's "lesser evil" theory valid again.

Lanzman right, cool intro to the idea of a 'worse bogeyman.' And I love that next season will give more backstory about the first generation of freaks.

Chewie, when did Peter use two powers at once? I remember when he busted in on Parkman at Bennet's place to rescue Hiro and Ando in Futureworld, that he became visible immediately before he used his TK power to throw one of the cops. I thought they've been pretty careful to show Pete only use one power at time, but I guess I missed something.

^I think we are introduced to Future Peter by him moving a glass or some such telekinetically while invisible at Niki's strip club.

Finally watched it. An absolutely fantastic finale!

The schizo girl finally is explained with a proper ability.

The all coming togethr worked fantastic.

I must say I thought the beginning of this first season was dodgy and very up and down, but I'm glad I stuck with it, the second half of the season really found its legs and it's a cracking show.

Hiro at the beginning of Volume 2 was hilarious!

An enjoyable episode, though I would have preferred more of a fight scene at the end, but I guess they had to cut it down to make way for the Volume 2 twist ending.

Predicting that in season 2, Hiro won't know how to teleport back to New York in the present day, so he spends the first couple of episodes leaping to different times and locations, hoping that his next leap might be the leap back home.

Also, he fights a dinosaur.

on the "why did nathan have to die?" question....apart from the need to finally redeem his character...one could also ask....why didn't Hiro simply teleport him to a less populus place and leave him?

woulda took 2 seconds.