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  1. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    So Mrs Marvel is kind of like Green Lantern in a way.
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    I was thinking more like Peter Parker.

    Boy next door is in love with her.
    She’s crazy about the hot guy in school.
    Awkwardly accepts the powers and tries diligently to master them.
    Still goes back to high school the next day.
    Still listens to parental figures.

    If you watch the “guide” episode, it’s kind of a Mary Sue, but then … what fantasy show/movie/story isn’t?
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    I just meant her powers are kind of like Green Lantern, but yes, her life is similar to Peter Parker.
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    Ok. I can see that.
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    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    but his powers come from a ring and hers came from a bracelet.

    total different. Not even the same type of mystical alien energies FFS!
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    Actually, her boy next door friend concluded that her powers were coming from inside her. The bracelets just seemed to … bring them out.
  7. Steal Your Face

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    So she's the MCU's first official mutant, though I still count Wanda and Quicksilver.
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    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Loved the young lady playing Ms Marvel, Iman Vellani. She has tons of charisma and is another great find by their casting department. Look forward to lots from her in the future.

    I thought the season was a lot of fun and particularly liked the swap out with Carol Danvers at the end. So the bracelet is a NegaBand. This is a shout out to the original Captain Marvel who before dying of cancer was forced into a parallel dimension. Rick Jones wore the band, and only one of them could be out of that dimension at a time. That's classic Marvel and a great call back, though I'm sure they will update the premise.

    I really didn't like their portrayal of the Partition though. That was some serious white washing. Fact is, the ones who wanted India split into two countries were the Muslims, and by most accounts they initiated the violence that started the problems. A senior Muslim League leader gave a speech saying the police were not watching and do what you will which led to the first massacre of the partition.

    As to Ms Marvel being Marvel's first mutant - yeah, pretty much hate that. She lives in a welcoming community that adores her. That's the antithesis to the mutant issues in the comic book world and I hope they drop that as a foot note.

    I too agree Wanda and Quicksilver should be retconned to being the first Mutants.
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  9. Steal Your Face

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    Perhaps once more mutants show up and particularly Magneto, shit will hit the fan. I imagine with secret wars on the horizon people are going to start turning on our heroes despite the fact that they literally saved the universe from Thanos.
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    Magneto doesn't work if Kamala and others are the "first" mutants. His whole thing is that he survived Auschwitz. Maybe ten years from now you could make him an Uighar, but having him be a survivor of 21st century genocide when humanity was meant to learn that genocide is wrong in 1945 only to recommit to it with mutants is perhaps too on the nose.
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    I’m guessing that’s what the multiverse is for, he comes over from another universe. How they make it all work, I have no clue.
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    I’m not a fan of crossover storylines - at least, not as a norm. It’s fun surprise once in a while - like Deadpool referencing both Avengers and X-Men. But, as a normal thing, not so much. I don’t even like that they are putting Defenders and Avengers in the same universe.
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    Is it surviving that specifically, or simply a PTSD thing? Let him witness a few massacres as an aid worker who doesn't know how to use his powers yet and he should be angry enough.
    bonus that if you set that around the time of Yugoslavia, you can have him and Xavier born in the early 60s (and be age appropriate in 2022) and still have room for them to have a past.
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    Apparently Kamala Khan was always supposed to be a mutant. That was the original intention of the comic book character.

    But the head of Marvel at that time wanted to push the Inhumans more. Since FOX had the rights to the mutants and the X-Men, he wanted all newly created characters to be Inhumans so that they wouldn’t have to give up the movie rights for those characters.

    Now that Disney owns FOX the X-Men can be fully integrated into the MCU and Kamala Khan can be a mutant as she was always intended to be. Inhumans are basically mutants too, just genetically engineered by Kree.

    As for being the first, we saw Xavier already in Doctor Strange so they will probably find some creative way to bring all the X-Men and their associated characters into the mix.

    We are getting more of Kang soon and we know he had some history with the first mutant, Apocalypse. And Apocalypse also had history with the Celestials, who were also introduced.

    Phase 4 seems to be connecting more. We saw that Kamala’s bracelet originally belonged to a Kree who was found in a temple with the Ten Rings symbol. The Ten Rings were calling out to something in space. We are getting Secret Invasion, which presumably will involve more Kree-Skrull shenanigans. We are getting the Fantastic Four. Its all coming together.
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  15. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Way I look at it, in the comics, all these characters interact as freely as crewmembers on a Star Trek show.
    That's the way it's meant to be.
    It's just that in the movie/show world, it's taken decades of corporate origami to get them together.
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    The CGI looks fine-tuned.
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    Was that supposed to be Daredevil at the end?
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    yup
    makes sense... they're both avocados at law.
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    "Maybe the real skeletons were inside us all along."
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    And our mother's in the USO, asked them to dance. Dance with them slow.
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    Kamala isn't the first mutant, she's just the first onscreen mutant native to the MCU. She's the audience perspective character for when the other mutants show up, like Rogue and Jubilee before her. :async:
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    She’s not wrong.
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    Gave it a chance because of Orphan Black, there, but She-Hulk is exactly what I expected: pedestrian teenage twitter feminist fanfic where every male is a walking paint-by-numbers strawman meme about the "patriarchy" and "toxic masculinity." And of course she's the bestest EVAR Hulk and way better at it than Bruce, who I have to hear saying "bruh" like some douchebag 14 year old. Get the fuck outta here. :dayton:

    One episode was enough. Made me impatient for the aggravation to end. I'm out.
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    And men know nothing about having to control their emotions. Or MAYBE we just don't nail ourselves to the fucking cross every time the world refuses to drop everything because we felt a feeling.
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