In the US men are 3-4x more likely to be a victim of homicide than women. So yeah, she's a little wrong. Funny that almost no one seems to know that fact.
I rolled my eyes pretty heavily a couple of times, and I don't disagree with your take. But I thought the humor and Tatiana Maslany's charisma and acting chops made it worthwhile, and I'll watch the rest. The Cap conversations alone were worth the price of admission. I also want to see what they do with Jameela Jamil. Why did Titania attack that courtroom? And in the comics Titania is considerably stronger than Jennifer Walters. I'll be curious what her background is and if they update her power level. And Daredevil and Wong are making appearances, so I'll definitely tune in for that. Sounds like Jen is going to be recruited as an Avenger, and that fits well with the character's history in the comics.
Agreed, it didn’t really grab me, but I’m willing to give some leeway. Ms. Marvel was quite boring as well.
Jen has ALWAYS been more together than Bruce. He's a mess, that's his deal. But a "better" Hulk? That's not even in evidence here. More in control of her rage? Sure. Tougher? Stronger? Bruce puts a rock into orbit after Jen shows off at the initial rock throw. And that's CALM. UA doesn't need to worry about Hulk not being the strongest there is. He always is. Because Hulk has no limit to his anger. He's still the perfect metaphor for you, Albert. Don't you worry. Now go ask Jenee to tell you the lullaby about the sun ready for nap time.
got a broad fucking definition of "we" there sport. For example: Hillary Clinton testifies under direct attack for 11 hours vs. Bret Kavanaugh for...three? How did those "emotional control" events turn out? There's a reason that there's a cliché about abusive men excusing their anger by saying "look what you made me do"
This feels like projection. Bruce was the most prominent male character in the first episode, and he was supportive and encouraging and kind. Who else was there? The cliche drunk assholes that only exist to get their asses kicked? They're a cliche in stories about both male and female heroes. The douchey coworker? Ooooh, a cocky asshole lawyer. You never see those. This line reeks of male insecurity. She's almost immediately got more control of her Hulk form than Bruce, but that's more a reflection of Bruce than Jen. Comics Bruce has historically had something similar to multiple personality disorder. But the episode still showed he was much stronger than Jen, even in his smaller Smart Hulk form. You don't speak casually or use dumb slang with your cousins or siblings?
Men, of course. But that in no way changes the fact that men are 3-4x more likely to be murdered then women, which is not exactly a narrative you hear frequently. 2-3x more likely to commit suicide as well. It's almost as if we don't value men's lives as much, because we constantly how women live in terror of men, but just assume that men getting shot down is par for the course. Last year there are stats, there were 1000 murders of women by husbands and boyfriends, which of course is too much. But that's compared to 14000 murders total.
Where's the Red Room thread about this epidemic of male deaths? Shouldn't there be several? Or are the legitimate dangers and challenges faced by men only worth bringing up in order to shout down any woman that dates complain about the dangers and challenges that women face?
I thought it was funny and entertaining. I’ll be tuning in. Seems pretty comic accurate. Don’t care about the other stuff.
The point of the question is that one could argue that the act of homicide (and suicide) and the rate thereof are manifestation of men not being able to control hostile emotions to the extent that women are, and that because men are culturally conditioned to consider their emotional outbursts rational and valid while women's are irrational and hysterical, thus women in order to be taken seriously condition THEMSELVES to be more "in control" thaan men in order to be taken seriously. It's not which sex is CAPEABLE of control, it's which feel obliged to it. All that said, there IS a subset of emotions which men are culturally conditioned to repress, it's just not anger/rage/hostility
I thought it was fun all around. I think certain among us have become obsessed with looking out for "woke" to such an extent they have forgotten how to enjoy anything
And don’t forget Kitty Pryde/Shadowcat before them in the 1989 pilot episode for the never produced, earlier X-Men animated series. Interestingly, she never once appeared in the later, more successful 1992 animated series. Not even a cameo. It would be interesting to see which X-Men they decide to introduce first into the MCU (other than Xavier). Might be cool to get a Storm cameo in Black Panther 2.
Or maybe because men feel like they have to be smarter, stronger and better at everything than any woman.
What does that have to do with controlling anger? Your facts would be oppositional to the point you’re trying to make.
I'd say the exact opposite. Men are told their emotions aren't valid, especially their rage. Hell, there's been numerous studies that show that women initiate violence as often as men, it's just considered culturally acceptable to slap a man or throw something at him. Men's violence on the other hand is much more dangerous. But they are both violence, it's just a matter of capability. There was a law passed in DC that meant that every instance of domestic violence had to be arrested. Women's arrests tripled. They rescinded the law. I definitely feel I have to be more careful about that aspect of my emotions than women do. I'm perceived as a threat. A woman can start screaming in a public place and everyone just rolls their eyes. A man does, especially a large one, and the police get called. And, of course, men have 10-25 times the amount of testosterone as women do, which is a natural steroid that increases not only muscle mass but also aggression. That's almost certainly why men are more violent - but also why moral men would raise an eyebrow as to women being innately better at controlling their emotions. Personally, I don't know any men who are violent with their wives. I do know wives that are violent with their husbands. I don't know any men who abused their children. I know a women who had her children taken from her by child protective services due to the constant beatings. I've had female family members tell me they were going to murder me and my mother abused my father as he was dying, and told me she was justified in doing it. Anecodotal to be sure, but it's impossible for that not to color my perspective on this. Again, men are required to suppress their emotions on a regular basis. This isn't the 1500s. Go work in a corporate environment, any form of expression of anger is punished. And mansplaining? LOL. Itself a hideously sexist conceit. Try being the Dad raising a child in a community. You will constantly be talked to like you are the child, because no man could possibly understand how to take care of children. Sexism exists in many forms. I've been accused of mansplaining online a couple of times. Of course, in every occasion, it was a matter of basic facts, and the women in question had it wrong. I wasn't talking down to them because they were a woman, I was correcting things they said that were objectively wrong. That is considered problematic in large swathes of online communities now. Which goes back to equality vs equity - equity seems to believe because some men talk down to women, men as a class aren't allowed to dispute things women say. Again, very much disagree, and the prisons are full of men who did not repress their anger. Of course, traditionally we also aren't allowed to express other emotions. Luckily we are becoming wiser on that aspect now. Hopefully that will help deal with the massive disparity in male suicide, which is often based on inabililty to articulate emotions. Remember in most states assault isn't the actual throwing of a punch. It's sufficient to take actions that the other party feels threatened. Men are innately more threatening (for the most part). There was one very interesting survey that asked men who they went to when they needed to talk to express their emotions. The vast majority of men said they had no one they could do that with, and when they had tried they were often belittled. Personally I don't find gender a particularly relevant trait when talking about morality. There are saints and sinners among all walks of life.
My facts state women aren't nearly as often the target of homicide, so if you have a constant fear of being murdered by a male significant other in your life it may not be entirely based on fact. There are ~100 million white females in the US, there are around ~1700 who are murdered. Your chances of being murdered in any given year is 0.0017%. By a significant other it drops to 0.0008%. You are far, far more likely to die from a car accident, cancer or some other form of illness. By several orders of magnitude, actually. But then I remembered who you were dating, and I realized you should just run, girl.
You’re arguing something that isn’t being discussed. This discussion isn’t about women being murdered by husband/exhusband/boyfriend/ex boyfriend. This discussion is about controlling anger. And if more men are being killed by other men, then guess what. Men can’t control their anger.
Your quote was literally she might get murdered for expressing her emotions. I pointed out the chances of that are extremely small, so maybe it's not a valid part of her complaint. And of course anyone who says 'I am infinitely better' at something than someone else is pretty much just a pretentious douchebag full of hyperbole. This is just a sexist, pretentious douchebag. But other than that bit of stupidity, it was a fun show.
Uhm. Lol. No. It wasn’t. Whose complaint? That men do it all the time is so ingrained that you don’t bat an eye. But, a woman does it and you freak the fuck out. But, saying the man hulk is better isn’t? You’re just too stupid to look at your own arguments from a different perspective. Wouldn’t know. Didn’t watch it.
Thanks @Demiurge. Women are far less likely to commit violent crimes therefore they are better at controlling their anger.
So we've established you can't even understand the basic verbiage of something you yourself post. Pretty on brand. The person who you posted a quote of saying they might be murdered if they express emotion. Please show me a man saying he is infinitely better than a woman here on this board. If it's men doing it all the time, it should be easy. If there is an example of that, it's almost certainly someone who is universally reviled for their sexism. Thanks for femsplaining. Within the character of the MCU Banner should have greater insight into being a Hulk, having done so for 15 years. That's not a function of being male, it's a function of experience. Of course you didn't. Then you might have some context in order to discuss it.
Damn. The meme just said women born between 1900 and 2000 have had to learn to control their emotions - including anger all our lives. But, please, continue to show us your ass. It’s very entertaining.
While I don't dispute that, women have considerably less testosterone. When engaged in conflict, studies show men release norepinephrine and cortisol at high levels. This amplifies the natural fight or flight experience, and is one of the reasons why men are more successful in exerting violence. Women tend to release endorphins, EXCEPT for women that test abnormally high in testosterone, who react in much the same way men do. What this means is that it's harder for a man to control aggression. But society demands it of us, as it should. We are highly evolved animals, but animals none the less, and we are going against a million years of evolution when you decide no, I'm not going to beat the hell out of that asshole over there that clearly deserves it. Perhaps this is changing over time, as we are seeing a drop in testosterone in men. No one is sure why, but it could be that the nature of society has changed so that aggressive men no longer have the advantage they once had in mating. Even 200 years ago society was completely different. This is nothing in either historical or evolutionary terms, but has had a profound change (yes, for the better) in the way we organize society. So are women better at controlling anger? I'm not sure that's accurate. Most women literally don't experience anger biologically in the way men do. I'm not saying women can't be angry, of course that's nonsense. But when they get angry they aren't as likely to experience it as rage. Which for millennia was actually a negative for them, and one of the reasons that virtually all known cultures were dominated by men. It certainly wasn't because men were more intelligent or better organized. Luckily we've come far enough that it's an advantage now. But if a women told me she was infinitely better at controlling her anger than me, I'd just laugh. I have to constantly, and it's not 'I really wish I could tell that guy off' kind of anger.
Again, bullshit. It didn't mention any time frame at all, so that's just you projecting your own stuff onto it. And it didn't just say women had to learn to control their anger, it said they were infinitely better at it than men are.
You are completely incapable of nuance, aren’t you. The meme said women have had to control their emotions more than men. The meme indicated that if women didn’t, we literally could lose our jobs, relationships, and even possibly our lives if we didn’t control our emotions. The time frame, while not explicit in the meme, is implicit in that previous to the 20th century, women didn’t need to control emotions any more than men because previous to the 20th century, we only have historical documents written most by men. The time from, while not explicit in the meme, is implicit that women that are now coming of age (born post 2000) are not putting up with the same shit that we have over the past century. Grow the fuck up. White privilege exists Male privilege exists. Get a hold of yourself.
