So that storm wouldn't get in as much trouble for recruiting mods like evenflow and listkeeper. Obviously.
Well, face, if you want, we'll just do away the rule all together and we'll allow administrators to play too. I was just told it wouldn't be fair.
Let them rep war (if they sink that low), but limit the negs to what everyone else has It would be voluntary rather than a hack of course.........
I have no problem with the rules, but what irks me is when it's translated to "you can never give a negrep outside the red room." I think I've caught at least one friendly warning, being accused of 'rep warring' or 'flaming' for simply giving somone a neg in the green room. But I'll bitch about that stuff on a case by case basis- I generally don't have a problem with such issues.
Me beating you over the head with that fact made it harder to ignore, huh? It has nothing to do with any one person...I advocated this heavily after Ramen and Phantom left over it. With no more rep than anyone else, there is no reason why mods can't use the function like anyone else. Admins are different and should refrain from it by choice anyway. But to be sure and since their rep is unlimited...I will miss that...it's in the rule.
It's more complicated than that. See, I always thought people around here should be posters first, mods a distant second. I tried very hard to be. And as a poster there were people I found annoying, people who trolled using rep, starting all kinds of trouble. There was a school of though amongst myself and others that if reputation was that important to them, hitting them in that spot would put a stop to some nonsense and perhaps make better citizens of them. Plus, it always seemed silly to deny mods a popular weapon used by posters. That's kind of like letting the general public have access to assault rifles and forcing SWAT teams to resort to stun guns. It just wasn't right. And I think my theory pretty much proved itself in practice.
I agree w/ POTN, though not through rep in this thread. Unfortunatly part of what he described - poster first, mod distant second - is now exactly the opposite here. POTN's vision of WF, although detrimental to my rep score, is a positive maxim we should take to heart.
But POTN, what you do as a mod reflects upon a whole board, not just yourself. To regular well-behaved posters, it looks like shit if mods are misbehaving or group attacking some schmuck. Besides, the whole rep thing is retarded. If someone is acting like a jackass, you have the freedom here to tell them off when in the Red Room. Surely that's sufficient if you need to put the smackdown. I do recognize that WF has a different atmosphere and is more accepting of trolling and such (even amongst the staff sometimes.) But to me, it's CYA, as a mod, I don't want to do shit that will cause stuff like the current board drama.
Being able to warn posters is more than enough power. Having that power means you need to at least appear to be impartial. That's never really happened here before, so I guess there's no point in pretending, is there? Another in a recent line of bad decisions.
Fair enough. Thanks for the explanation. I suppose that makes sense. I assumed that the two facilities were quite separate.
I don't see a need to be impartial, just to be fair. I'm all for mods and general posters having the exact same rules applied to them. Besides, if a mod is rep warring it just means they obviously have a grudge so people are more likely to pick up on and unfair warnings they give out.
