UA voting tangent

True, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you get what you need.

So I am not giving up and going with Biden because that is not going to get what we need. Instead I am going to support the people who keep kicking them in the ass and work out my own place when you all are eating your shit sandwich.

Fuck you. People can get upset about whatever they fucking want. Good luck trying to outlaw feelings and opinions, idiot.

That's because you're literally retarded. Expressing an opinion is unAmerican? Fuck you.

Oh look, you're pulling insults out of your ass again.

Fuck. You.

Good luck with that. One or the other will win. It's the effect of having an electoral college with winner take all in most states. It results in a two party election.

We need to change the electoral process and maybe the structure of government. I don't agree if you think 4 more years of trump is a path to this. We will have the same structure and mechanisms, or worse, in 4 years.

One of the two is nicer than the other. One is causing the world to suffer and taking down the US. The other stands a chance of correcting this course if elected. Or in other words, trump's shit is worse than biden's. Vote Biden.

• Who are these people?
• Der Drumpfenfuhrer and his cadre are robbing the country blind, but you believe Biden is a Ferengi? Show your work.

Jenee is unbelievably stupid. Like, "makes Dayton look presidential" stupid.

I do have to say something to @oldfella1962 and @Paladin . It is fun watching the biden boot lickers contort themselves to shovel down their shit sandwich. It is just as fun as watching rightforge try to defend trump over the years.

It sure is nice knowing you dem shitbags are getting fucked just as the reps are.

My statements are not about disagreements. People in this thread as well as people on Facebook, are telling other people that if they do not vote a specific way, then they are voting for trump.

This could not be further from the truth.

This is why we are now locked in a a two-party circle-jerk.

Offer your opinion all you want. I have no issue with that.

But, to say "you must vote for Biden or you're voting for trump" is the same as saying "you must vote for Biden" and that is the same thing as saying "you must protest the way I say".

This is actually self-contradictory. The same freedom of expression that allows you to protest also allows you to tell others what you think they ought to do. Calling that "un-American" is in fact very un-American.

Every advertisement is telling you what you should buy, or do, or not do, or something. Is that "un-American"? Are Americans so stupid, or so helpless, that they can't listen to someone telling them what they ought to do, in that person's opinion, and then just brush it off with a "Well, that's what you think, but I happen to think otherwise"? Why do they have to label that "un-American"? Why do you have to label it "un-American"?

You have every right to tell me why you think I should vote such and such a way. That's very much a part of the rights that are clearly written into the American constitution. And I have every right to tell you why I don't want to. That a part of the same right.

Trying to limit discourse by labeling it "un-American" is very un-American.

For the second time, who on WF is "telling" you how to vote?

As for your battle with FB, take it to FB, not here.

No one here is enthusiastic about Biden, Jenee 2.0. They simply understand the principle of harm reduction, and the value of living to fight another day.



*I know you're not at all sincere and just trolling, but I still felt like it was worth repeating.

no, not really. Biden has done much more to enact racist policies and fuck people over than trump has. Trump is a complete scumbag, but he has not been a huige part of the drug war, destroying people's lives by helping predatory banking practices, and fighting against non-white people getting the same opportunity as white people. Trump may be a rat bastard, but up until his presidency he was pretty localized. The only reason his presidencvy was so bad was because of the policies joe biden helped to enact and the rights he aalowed to be eroded without ever trying to correct them.

Biden has been a thousand times worse for the world than trump because he has been a part of our government while trump has only been running his own little enterprise.

No, it is quite true, and it is not why you are in a two-party system; it is because you are in a two-party system. Pretending otherwise or refraining from saying so won't make it go away.

And I still want to know about those graves. You compared me to a Trump supporter. That's a horrible thing. I'm not letting that go.

As far as I know, you have not told anyone that they should vote for Biden, so I don't see how you think I compared you to a trump supporter.

Oh, you should totally vote for Biden.

There. How many people died?

lick lick lick.

Oh, and I happen to agree with a lot of things @Jenee says. I do not find that to be derogatory or negative. I do not think I am a replica of her, but if that makes you feel better you go right ahead and feel that way.

Did you call me stupid? Did you tell me if I vote for Jo Jorgensen I'm voting for trump?

If you want to jump on the bandwagon and get stupid, then yea, you might as well be as bad as a trump supporter telling protesters how to protest. If you think that equates to me tell you that you are responsible for the deaths of everyone who died of trump's idiocy, then well ... at least 140K.

Is that what you want to hear?

You've been here a couple years, so I guess I don't have to tell you, but, this is the bandwagon. This is how they "convince" people of their intellectual prowess - by calling other people stupid and then reinforcing that belief by calling other people by the name of the poster they think is stupid.

I, personally, don't come here for intellectual validation. So, if it bothers you - no, I've not seen any evidence of it - you might not want to tell people you agree with me.

Uh yes, actually, K. has said if you vote for [] (fill in the blank ≠ Biden) that in effect, you're voting for Trump.

Sorry but K. stands for Killler.

I assumed you were aware of his history. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden

Please read and catch the fuck up. I am sorry for assuming the wordsmith educated hereself on him while she was living through his history as a senator and VP of her government. You will find that he was very influential in creating the drug war with ronald reagan. This was a powerful tool in the school to prison pipeline for black youth. He also sided with the banks for predatory loan practices which earned him the nickname the senator from MBNA. He fought bussing because he did not want black children in predominantly white schools. According to his own stories he would harass black people at the public pool he worked as a lifeguard. He was actually quite proud of that.

Do catch the fuck up so we can be on equal ground.

... at least according to Kinsey Millhone.

If you're voting for Jorgensen, you're voting for Trump. And I only want to hear you say that I just killed a hundred thousand people by saying so if you seriously believe that. If you don't believe that saying so is the same as casually killing so many thousands, the same as joining a gestapo gang kidnapping innocents on American streets, the same as putting children in cages and rapists on the highest court, if you don't believe that I am morally equivalent to the people who do those things, then I want you to realize that your equation of the two viable political options in the US today is ludicrous.

I would warn you of the same thing as normally I find the bandwagon loses me at some point. It is cool. Seeing your comments and who you piss off I can say this happens to me in a lot of other places so I am used to it. It is why I just accept the term troll because I always tend to make people angry. It is a gift. I am also blessed with a warm feeling inside when an idiot melt's down so it sort of encourages my behavior.

I don't believe that, nor do I believe trump supporters telling protesters how to protest are responsible either.

If you want to discuss. I'll discuss.

If you want to say the same stupid shit that would come out of the mouth of 14th doctor, then I'm done.

technically we are not in a two party system which makes the idea that it is a two party system a mass delusion and a sort of societal insanity. For whoever was looking for logic in abiding by insanity and saying voting for biden is logical, you really missed the point of logic.

@Jenee and @Tererun seem to think we are being given a choice between a turd sandwich and a giant douche. We are not.

Instead, we're being given a choice between a turd sandwich and someone who was initially a closeted fascist, but who has since come out of the closet with his fascism.

Given the choice between a turd sandwich (who might not line up 100% with my politics and may be kinda skeezy, but who would put us on a course correction) and an overt fascist (who will certainly double down on his fascism if he wins reelection), I'm gonna have to go with the turd sandwich.

If you don't vote, or if you vote for a turd pastry (i.e. third party), you may as well be voting for the fascist because that's exactly what fascists count on.

Technically you're right. But we are part of a society suffering from mass delusion and insanity.

And I fell off the wagon (if in fact I was ever on it).

Yes, whereas you seem to have drawn a blank on the multi-decade history of NY's Most Egregious Slumlord.

Dude, you have drank way too much of the dem kool aid. You are actually liking your shit sandwich. You are just as deluded and fucked as any trumpista. All you need is a blue MAGA hat and you are all set for the convention.