Keltec May Have Invented the Perfect Defensive Weapon

This looks very impressive.

A bull-pup, bottom eject, pump-action 12 gauge, with TWO seven round magazines. 26" of compact whoop-ass.

Of course, a semi-auto with an automatic magazine changeover would be better still...

I want to shoot skeet with that so bad.

I don't think they invented it. Must have one though.

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Neostead shotgun (South Africa)








It has dual 6 round magazines.

Different angle.

I hope this isn't law enforcement only. It looks like they've taken the Neostead's concept and significantly improved it.

I hope I'm not coming across as a bloody liberal, but when I saw the thread title, I actually thought you were going to post something about a new kind of weapon that was non-lethal...

It is non-lethal.

To the user.

Seems to be the case that it will be legal here in Kalifornia, so I might just pick one up. Suggested retail price was said to be in the $800 range...

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Saw an opinion elsewhere that said that this would be a good tool for military and police entry teams. Load one tube with breaching rounds, the other with buckshot or whatever.

No doubt once California sees it and has a heart attack you will be banned from owning it because you are a criminal.

Wait? You're not a criminal? Well you still can't have one.

Yep. Just read the details from the Kel Tec website. Flip a switch and you've got access to the other tube.

Given it's design it would make a good home defense weapon. Slap a Red Dot and a flashlight on it and you're good to go.

Just wish it was going to be cheaper then $800.

800 bucks isn't that much of a deal though...

Well, certainly one can get a very decent Remington 870 Security model for $400 or so (got mine on sale for $349!!!), so, no, $800 is no great shakes for a pump shotgun.

Sill, it is an interesting new approach and the capacity and handiness make it very, very appealing.

Like I said: give me a semi-auto in the same package...

The capacity is what makes me think Cali is going to screw you over.

I'm interested, but not for $800.

The law-dissectors over at Calguns.net say it doesn't run afoul of any California laws because tube magazines on shotguns aren't restricted by any laws.

Kel-Tec. If you're making a low budget science fiction series in Vancouver, you need to talk to them.

first the RFB and now THIS, go keltek, but I still wana see the HALO shotgun

800 retail probably means 600-650 online.

I can't think of any current shotgun that has 14 rounds in it.

If Cali banned high capacity mags there is no reason they wouldn't ban this one.

Tubes != Magazines!

Technically, a "tube" IS a magazine. It is just an internal magazine, not a removable one.

Tube = magazine.


If it's not, what is it?

OK, so is a clip a magazine?

Technically, an en bloc clip is. >EDIT< Though the real difference between a clip and a magazine is that a magazine has an integral feed mechanism (a spring-loaded follower) while a clip does not.

Now answer my question.

I've seen 20 round drum mags for the Saiga shotguns

agreed, they'll ban it just because

Make it semi-auto and price it at about $500.

A tube or tubular magazine is, in fact, a magazine.

Common on shotguns and lever-actions.