Keltec May Have Invented the Perfect Defensive Weapon

This is different. I'm talking shotguns that have the rounds underneath them like an 870.

It would be physically damn near impossible. My 590 has a magazine that runs all the way to the end of the barrel and it holds maybe nine 2 3/4 shells (and I think that includes one in the pipe). I guess you might be able to engineer some kind of staggered box mag that would have that kind of capacity, but it would be sort've a solution in search of a problem.

[Edit: I suppose you could set a gun up in a bullpup config and have a 14 shot underbarrel mag.]

Ah. I looked closer at the setup in the OP.

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This is, without a doubt, the best zombie gun ever made. :bittersweet:

I read this thread and then visited the Facebook page for the gun shop I buy from. Guess what was posted. Go ahead, guess.

That's right: they're going to carry this Kel-Tec.

Let's put it this way.

There's no way I could ever get a license for one of those in Sweden, but if I could, boy, would it be worth $800...

Have you let the Raccoons know?

The awesome thing is...well among the many awesome things...

I'm not that upset about it being a pump. I know they've made great inroads with fast reliable semiauto shotguns, but when you start factoring in the huge variety of shells and loads I like the security of a pump. And unless you're doing fire suppression a pump is fast enough for something that kicks like a 12 gauge.

But the idea of twin mag tubes is revolutionary--in the " why didn't I think of that" way. And the bullpup setup moves your center of gravity way back, making the thing point a lot faster for changing between targets quickly. It is also handy for room entry. With a Mossberg or a Remington it is almost like the opening scene in "Star Wars", with the Star Destroyer coming on screen--that's a whole lot of gun that needs to get into the room and pointed at a target before it can come into play. Here they've got something that has the punch of a shotgun that points more like an MP5. Very handy. I'm not an urban combat expert but I'd say put one of these guys about third on a stack entering a room. Get a couple submachineguns, suppressing and have this as the knockout punch.

I'm told Keltec will be present at a gun show here in Virginia in the near future. With this wonderful new toy at their booth.

Is this thing chambered for 3" shells? Most firearms sites appear to be blocked here at work.

No it's not chambered for 3" rounds.

I can tell who has and who has not fired thousands of rounds from a shotgun. I do not own the first 3" 12ga shell. Every round of buckshot I own is Federal's LE Low Recoil "Tactical"* 2-3/4" 00 Buck.




* - That word is really getting played out.

I want the biggest possible rounds in my zombie gun, dammit.

My Turkey gun is a single shot gun that is... very, very light. It takes 3.5" magnums.

Every time I kill a Turkey, I'm not sure which one of us has won.

Go 10 Gauge then.....

Show me a 10ga bullpup with two under-barrel magazines like this, and you might have a sale..

Yeah except you might be the only one in the country to want to buy it...

I'm fine with that. Makes it better, actually.

UA: "I want the biggest 12 gauge I can get!"
Everyone Else: "Get a 10 gauge!"
UA: "But it doesn't balance magazine capacity with firepower!"

You know the thing about those 3" shells is that they're longer, and the magazine has a finite length.

Go the whole 9 yards. Get a Mk-19.

Your shoulder will disagree!

No shit: those 3" shells kick like a mule. For home defense, a 2 3/4" is plenty.

Remember those dead raccoon pics? I eviscerated that raccoon with a 2 3/4" birdshot round at 10 yards.

Am I to understand you'd like a shotgun for decapitating zombies and you think 2-3/4" 12 gauge buckshot loads may be inadequate for the task?





I wouldn't worry about it.

I'm rather fond of birdshot for personal defense. At close ranges, the hydro-shock like effect is awesome.

And it distributes its energy very effectively.

My clavical and shoulder STILL hurt from that 3" mag I fired from a Rossi Coach Gun in 1990.

I've been calling it a magazine. I give up - don't shoot!

The stock shell holder thingy on my shotgun holds 4 extra 2-3/4" shells, and two 3" shells in case of cave trolls.

^what about mountain, bridge, and Internet?