Vandy no idea, but Mewa still posts in the WF Facebook group from time to time. He just seems to be over the board.
Hey, if you want to redefine racism so that the "systemic oppression" part is not in it, you're more than welcome to. Then we'll just disagree about whether the definition that you've chosen is appropriate. But while the definition includes that term, you're pretty much going to have to either explain how labelling white people in an offensive way reflects systemic oppression and is therefore racism, or admit that it does not and therefore is offensive, hurtful but NOT racism.
Possibly, tho this is a bit apples-and-oranges. There's an actual scientific basis for thinking "drugs are bad, mkay?" and there is not for assuming racial superiority shit.
Systemic oppression is a part of it. Just not the only part, or always even the most important part. Again, racism is the assumption of superiority (or inferiority) based on trivial cosmetic aspects of a group.
Isn't it funny, how Lanz and Lubak are ostensibly all "we're the DIFFERENT conservatives! We hate Trump!", but all the Trump-licking media is playing "whatabout! Whatabout! Whatabout!", and here they are, playing "whatabout BLACK racism, huh! Whatabout that!? ". Ain't that odd? That's just so fucking odd. What could it mean!?
It could mean that you don't recognize naked hypocrisy when it's staring you in the face. I despise Trump and his followers, and I've also pointed out the white supremicist element in it. This is not what-aboutism, this is an attempt to elevate the playing field. You can't decry activities that you yourself engage in and be taken seriously.
Please show me where I've done that, or is this just another one of your lame attempts to make yourself look like Prince of the Woken
See now you're ignoring the definition. What 1 reflects as a matter of genetics, people of X race are superior or inferior. That is not reflected in most modern versions of people's thinking about race, white or whoever. There are hardcore people who think that blacks/etc. are biologically inferior but I'm guessing that there are literally very few people of color who think whites are genetically inferior broadly speaking. To be sure, there are some who might claim that blacks genetically superior when it comes to sports or penis size or things like that. But that's not what we're talking about when we're talking about using race-related epithets. Now morally or culturally superior, that could be different. But that's not part of any of the above definitions.
Now that's just sad. 40's Lanzman would have hated nazism and all it stands for, just like the current model. And also just like the current model, taken no interest in anyone's religious preference so long as they didn't bother him with it.
Yeah, he would have. But the Jews would still be out to get him in his head. Those things can be simultaneous. People are often full of contradicting shit. Look at Milo YahI'mapenis.
"Assumption of superiority" is not the definition of racism. It can be part of, but it is not the definition.
Assumption of superiority (or inferiority) is the major component. Take that away and racism becomes nothing more than ego.
And I will reiterate: You are trying to remove that part so that "racism" could be the assumption of any superiority/inferiority without either systemic oppression or belief in genetics=destiny. Your perogative, but don't pretend that you are not bending the definition that you've chosen.
Bending to illustrate the point, perhaps. One could also point out that requiring the systemic oppression as part of the definition makes a lot of racist shit suddenly not racist. Comfortable with that?
He knows better. Turn on Fox News any time of day. All these whatabout arguments are there. Don't look for any unique arguments out of cons through this fucking mess. If you hold your breath for it, you'll fucking die.
It disparages and dehumanizes an entire segment of the population. "Painting with a broad brush," which I am given to understand is something to be avoided.
It's called "punching up" and if you are white (especially a conservative white) you can never "punch up". That's just the way it is. You shouldn't even be asking questions about racism, but you are thought of more highly here than myself * so if you can get away with it without being dogpiled as a racist, more power to you! But get ready to jump out of the quicksand by daring to approach a subject like race as a white man. * not complaining, just stating a fact
As if I care what a bunch of internet personae think of me. And anyway, look how much discussion I've sparked. This thread went to three pages pretty damn quick, which is kind of the point of a "discussion board." Yes?
Have ever been unfairly denied access to a job, promotion, healthcare, entrance/service to a food/drink establishment?
They call themselves "the chosen people!" Like other ethnicities are inferior! They've got a holy book that glorifies war against other cultures! That's exactly as bad as the Nazism! Context doesn't exist! - 40's Lanzman, probably
I wish it wasn't so early in the morning, because I really want to grab some popcorn to watch Lanz continue trying to explain to a black man what racism actually is.
Then he has never been a victim of racism. and this thread is just crying because he can't say "racist" words and Shirogayne can.
If you didn't care, you wouldn't keep arguing with anyone who doesn't share your POV. Nice way to keep the discussion going, though.
